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GuardianDevil · Post by **GuardianDevil** » 30 Sep 2006, 19:26

Hi guys, I sent a PM to icho but he hasn't responded yet so like anyway....

I was wondering if you could possibly make me a 24/7 server with the following mod and maps. Don't worry if the answer is a no, just think about it please.

* MTL152b1 or CRD
* WeaponSelector
* Normal gravity
* No explosion when you die
* No LAMs.
* No heavies
* No augs
* No gas
* No LAWs
* No HE
* No WP
* No turrets, cameras or consoles
* No repair bot
* Only default maps - Smuggler, Area51Bunker, Silo, CMD, Cathedral
* Call it something like "~[N]ostalgia~ Clan Server~ Hosted by [FGS]"

That's it really, this isn't just for [N] but it's for all the people who lov e smuggler and DXMS type pings. I personally hate going onto [Z] because of high ping, I lov e Smuggler though. I only like going on DXMS for the good ping and some of their maps. Combine the good points about DXMS and [Z] and you'll have an excellent server.

Thanks for your time.

Post by **IchoTolot** » 01 Oct 2006, 14:31

i think about

Post by **ShadowRunner** » 01 Oct 2006, 18:19

* No LAMs.
* No heavies
* No augs
* No gas
* No LAWs
* No HE
* No WP
* No turrets, cameras or consoles
* No repair bot
* Only default maps - Smuggler, Area51Bunker, Silo, CMD, Cathedral

That's ripping the Deus out of Deus Ex?

people who love smuggler and DXMS type pings. I personally hate going onto [Z] because of high ping, I love Smuggler though. I only like going on DXMS for the good ping and some of their maps. Combine the good points about DXMS and [Z] and you'll have an excellent server.

When I fight on the server type you are suggesting (essentially Gamesmajor) I suffer from suspicions of deliberate teamkill, crouchbuggin and assault rifle hax. (I know this angers some ppl) At the best of times I find it very boring and unrealistic that a sniper can assault and run and unless you snipe, you have no real hope of winning on these types of servers.

DXMS is great, the new maps are really important, default maps would IMO kill DX. The only two things that really spoil DXMS for me are:

1. US players from e.g RA clan spamming ppl to leave DXMS and join Z server. I never once complain on GODZ or Z about my ping, and it didnt ever stop me winning a game.
2. I find the DXMS banners slightly irritating and superfluous on a map which is already tagged "DXMS" on a server already called "DXMS". A giant banner in the middle of the map is just blatant overkill advertising?

I know I'm a mapper, but maybe your idea is nice, but with new maps as well... like a real computer game, faced with new and unfamiliar levels...

So I have to ask. What is wrong with DXMS, it's pretty much the server you are describing, there are plenty of maps with no turrets etc..

GuardianDevil · Post by **GuardianDevil** » 01 Oct 2006, 22:56

IchoTolot wrote:i think about

kk thanks.

I see your point shadow but to me the gamesmajor.co.uk style servers were the best, it's like the people who prefer 0 augs to aug and vica versa. I just want a server like DXMS but with default maps, there are little to none low pinged servers with default maps. This server is to provide choice for people, I like going onto DXMS but it's usually always iceworld, which gets repetitve. If there was another server like DXMS with smuggler I would go to that, then most people will bote for smuggler then that would become repetitive and I would play on DXMS with Iceworld. Kind of like a loop which I presume other people will do.

I would also prefer team kill not to be on to avoid people who team kill delibratly. but I forgot to mention that.

Custom maps and mods are very good, they keep dx alive, but I believe there should be something to go back to like a default server GM style.

Rob · Post by **Rob** » 02 Oct 2006, 19:02

this is a gr8 idea, and folks, you all know this server would be full of players all the time, just look at the GM servers that dx had

DCSB, V, AAGP

Jon · Post by **Jon** » 02 Oct 2006, 20:01

great, yet more bandwidth on the already stressed FGS server host... :x

If it was to be added, it should replace the least played FGS server... I think that is FGS 1...?

GuardianDevil · Post by **GuardianDevil** » 02 Oct 2006, 21:37

I didn't think of bandwidth or cost...

I never wanted a server to be replaced just one added but now I see that may be hard.

Ales · Post by **Ales** » 02 Oct 2006, 21:52

Hmm no dont get rid of the FGS's servers that have tnag on it or ill die a boring deppressing life.

Life is at cost is it worth it?

jonesy · Post by **jonesy** » 02 Oct 2006, 22:07

VOTE YES ON THIS THING!!!

synthetic · Post by **synthetic** » 02 Oct 2006, 23:23

I dont play on FGS servers and DXMS is best of them for me.

I dont find antigrav fun, I just dont, my game runs jagged as it is and scrilling with mouse in air isnt fun.

I dont play tnag because it freezes my video and the mod always mismatches with i got and what i dont have is too big to download.

Servers seem empty lot of time too so no drive to play there for me.

Now, if DXMS sorts out few maps that honestly saying, suck for MP, then it would be best of FGS hosted servers.

FGS servers - I understand low Gravity is your trademark sort of, but find a way to make it fun. Put TNAG and lowGrav serv together or what not. I believe the times when LowGrav was amazing must be over.

Arx Genus mod should perhaps be something to consider for FGS, as its not the boring 0auged ripped smuggler you guys try to avoid.

If you want to make best out of all interest then have people pick best MP maps out of DXMS archive and put them on mapvote alongside with default ones and perhaps with some oldschool maps (modified mutator - same map cant be voted twice, perhaps?). Or something similar.

There you have varied 0auged gameplay.

Tnag very much is private fun, i doubt it steals much bandwith as people rarely play it.

GuardianDevil · Post by **GuardianDevil** » 03 Oct 2006, 08:10

Thats a pretty good idea, I love the idea about a mutator so the same map can't be voted twice.

I also just noticed that the percentage of votes doesn't actually add up to 100%.

Reaction · Post by **Reaction** » 03 Oct 2006, 09:34

I liek your ideas ran12om, but what DXMS maps "suck at MP" and how would we find out what people want... ?

GuardianDevil · Post by **GuardianDevil** » 03 Oct 2006, 15:48

Maybe have alot of polls on which map they hate the most, then the ones that come first are removed. Do this untill there are so many maps left like the top 10 are in this server.

Jon · Post by **Jon** » 03 Oct 2006, 17:47

Reaction wrote:I liek your ideas ran12om, but what DXMS maps "suck at MP" and how would we find out what people want... ?

Interest is mutual - perhaps we should clean up the maplist, having the most played maps staying, whilst cleaning out all other past map packs, except the latest, pack 5, which will be kept for sentimental purposes until such a time as pack 6 is uploaded.

As for determining best maps, maybe a poll is needed?

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In the case of Tnag, it is much a clan based server, having most of the FGS populous enjoying it.

r12m - in reply to your comment of the AltFire server not having many players, I direct you to the screenshot i took just before I typed up this paragraph. Note that FGS 2 is Tnag/Altfire...

synthetic · Post by **synthetic** » 03 Oct 2006, 19:52

DXMS, I think that converted CS map, umm, the one with lot of brickwall action, is amazing for MP. Even though its small, something dxers are sort of used to anyway, IceWorld seems pretty nice aswell.
So some testing/poll week would be nice. I recall few maps from the mapvote that somehow got the win, and when I went there the map seemed like a total void, and, surprisingly, I was only one playing there.

Map is no good if you spend half an hour looking for someone to kill. And that map looked like it could exactly take that much, a half an hour O_o

As for your screen shot Jon, I have no doubt Someone plays it, lol. About 2 years ago I played some tnag aswell, in (doal88) server.
My point was that such games as the screen shows are quite rare. If you camp in server for 30 minutes then sure, you might get a good map of playing, but youll mostly be playing against people that you dont really find very hard to beat, and some of them might even leave server because of you..
I like mods, I play different mods now and then, sometimes the gap between now and between then can be more than a year, for different reasons. I know people who dont play mods at all.
All this prints a very grim picture for me, but as I said, its sort of private fun.

edit: with a bit of time I might take a look at all available DXMS maps and give my personal opinion on them. That would still be my opinion and even though I can always ask some of my friends a poll or chain of polls would do the trick perhaps.
Hell, you guys make the maps, think whats playable for dxers that are short of patience and want to hit something, lol.

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