Phant accuses others of fps abusing, lol

[Mastakilla]

THC in particular seems to have some nasty lag spikes every now and then that have me warp all over the place for a bit

[Vexus]

Well when somebody accuses you of cheating, you have the right to stick up for yourself.

Ok show me the post where i accused him of cheating. I dont like to be accused of accusing smb.
I just said his reload is really faster than mine and i want to know the reason, maybe it's only me having problems with reload.

Btw fear has the same fast sniper reload as phant

phant is a cheater. Saying this about Fear is accusing him of cheating.

[Psycho]

Well when somebody accuses you of cheating, you have the right to stick up for yourself.

Ok show me the post where i accused him of cheating. I dont like to be accused of accusing smb.
I just said his reload is really faster than mine and i want to know the reason, maybe it's only me having problems with reload.

Btw fear has the same fast sniper reload as phant

phant is a cheater. Saying this about Fear is accusing him of cheating.

If you consider fps bugging cheating, then 70% of deus ex cheats.

[ShadowRunner]

Yes, lag to the point of warping sometimes.

[Vexus]

Well when somebody accuses you of cheating, you have the right to stick up for yourself.

Ok show me the post where i accused him of cheating. I dont like to be accused of accusing smb.
I just said his reload is really faster than mine and i want to know the reason, maybe it's only me having problems with reload.

Btw fear has the same fast sniper reload as phant

phant is a cheater. Saying this about Fear is accusing him of cheating.

If you consider fps bugging cheating, then 70% of deus ex cheats.

I call shooting faster than others cheating.

[Sonny]

Who dictates what "others" is then you, me, anyone shooting faster than yourself you mean. Right?

[Vexus]

Who dictates what "others" is then you, me, anyone shooting faster than yourself you mean. Right?

I mean shooting faster than what is normal... in other words, the shot time of the weapon. If it's a sniper, then it's the shot time and reload time.

[Mastakilla]

Playing devils advocate...

Apparently "normal" is relative to the clients FPS, as time went by everyone, except the people who left vsync as it is, started getting quicker and quicker. It seems like there's a line that if crossed things get insane though... But also very noticeable. I don't think it happens untill 300, 400+ fps from what I experienced, but it's very easy to get to that amount of FPS for any modern system (gaming rigs from 2008/2009 can easily achieve it)

I remember people like Clix (yes) lowering graphic details to an INSANE low to get an FPS advantage, lowering graphics not just with ingame options but also editing values in the .ini to a point where textures were basically a smooth wall of a colour vaguely resembling the original texture.

At the time this wasn't being bitched about too much either. From my experience anyway.

Now, all you have to do is turn on vsync and people start having a fit.

Turning vsync on, which you can do in-game, gives you a performance improvement = Cheating
Editing user.ini outside of the game to pull out your medkit and use it and swap back to your assault rifle with 1 button = Acceptable
BUG. Emptying out your assault rifle, swapping to a different weapon and swapping back to a full clip instead of waiting for it to reload = Acceptable

Odd.

Don't get me wrong, ideally I would like everyone to play on equal ground and have the game being based PURELY on skill. But it's just not like that.

Back in the day where no one reached an FPS high enough to give much of an advantage, people were moaning about ping all the time, and lieing about what their pings actually were (couldn't see it in a scoreboard yet)
I don't remember caring much, but that might've been because I was too busy banning Nobody from a server.

In the very end, I couldn't give a crap who is the best player in this game. I like playing competitive but it really doesn't bother me when someone with 500 FPS sprays me to death everytime I walk around a corner. I didn't even care much when Lionheart (dat was [A]lex rite?) was on a server publically haxoring. That stuff is actually kind of fun.
Like I said, when things get insane with FPS it's very easy to notice, and the people can be dealt with accordingly, talked into capping their FPS or get a banhammer for all I care.

But it's not cheating.

Hell, we should see it as part of ATDM in 0 Aug, taking down the juggernauts.

[~][FGS][Nobody~]

Turning vsync on, which you can do in-game, gives you a performance improvement = Cheating

Weird.. I always thought that enabled vsync limits your fps to the frequency of your display.

Editing user.ini outside of the game to pull out your medkit and use it and swap back to your assault rifle with 1 button = Acceptable
BUG.

I don't like such a dirty little helper keys. NAYNAYNAY

Back in the day where no one reached an FPS high enough to give much of an advantage, people were moaning about ping all the time, and lieing about what their pings actually were (couldn't see it in a scoreboard yet)
I don't remember caring much, but that might've been because I was too busy banning Nobody from a server.

YES. You banned me 9 years ago and I felt pretty unjustly treated!

I didn't even care much when Lionheart (dat was [A]lex rite?) was on a server publically haxoring. That stuff is actually kind of fun.

WUT??! In NO way it was Alex. We were developing CRD in order to avoid his actions.

[Psycho]

Funny thing is, phant is considered the worse fps abuser, however his fps is 200-250. I think that fps bug happens on different computers on differnt fps.

[ShadowRunner]

FPS bugging is taking advantage of an old game and an anti-social activity, like insults, spam, cheating, teamkilling, doorblocking etc.

Changing weapon to reload, editing graphics settings, crouching, unfortunately is not taking advantage, since everyone else can do it too, so I don't see those things as anti-social behaviour or cheating. There's no advantage, it's free for all.

It's the right attitude though, seeing them as a challenge. Still I would remove their advantage if I could, rather than ban people, since there are proxies, aliasing and not many players.

[Mastakilla]

Weird.. I always thought that enabled vsync limits your fps to the frequency of your display.

Heh, yeah me too. I had to actaully turn it ON to get my fps up though.

I don't like such a dirty little helper keys. NAYNAYNAY

You're one of few

WUT??! In NO way it was Alex. We were developing CRD in order to avoid his actions.

Oops, just thought it might've been him exposing the weaknesses of the game

FPS bugging is taking advantage of an old game and an anti-social activity, like insults, spam, cheating, teamkilling, doorblocking etc.

Changing weapon to reload, editing graphics settings, crouching, unfortunately is not taking advantage, since everyone else can do it too, so I don't see those things as anti-social behaviour or cheating. There's no advantage, it's free for all.

It's the right attitude though, seeing them as a challenge. Still I would remove their advantage if I could, rather than ban people, since there are proxies, aliasing and not many players.

Same. Isn't there a solution without the old unreal community? I imagine they'd have similar problems? Or is it dead?
We had help from that side before (Zora!)

[~DJ~]

Pretty sure reload bug can be fixed for assault rifle lol.

[Psycho]

Pretty sure reload bug can be fixed for assault rifle lol.

Nobody would use the mod.

[Mastakilla]

Pretty sure reload bug can be fixed for assault rifle lol.

Nobody would use the mod.

Yes but he's not that great anyway... Except in altfire

I just can't stop it