The [FGS] Clan

Shadowrunner wrote:this was about 4 people, then it was dropped, now it's suddenly only about Blade teamkilling, what can I say. Storm in a teacup.

LOOK WHO'S SAYING THAT!!!

the exact identity of those accused of hacking hasn't been proven yet, I'm sure that's already been said.

Blade entering the server and killing Psycho and Sync has been proven, but, what could change the whole thing is evidence that he actually changed team after entering.

@ DJ, if you're straight with me, I'll be straight with you, simple as that. You don't seem to be a pest to me anymore in-game. Who knows one day we might actually even get on. I was told there was "proof" about you and I'm sorry but I believed it, based on my past experiences of you. They told me you were aliasing and teamkilling and being...

a pest

If my experiences of you change, so will my feelings.


I've got a question for AIB.

How then was it possible that DJ, Blade, XXXXXX and XXXXXXX were all using the same aliases? You seem convinced you don't have proof of anything, but perhaps you have evidence (not proof) of something, not sure what, but that alias-sharing is mighty strange don't you think?

how is evidence not relatable to proof?

It's totally relative indeed. I guess a single piece of evidence can prove something, but in other cases evidence only tells you what is likely?

"Where there is smoke, there is fire"

Smoke is the evidence. Fire is the proof.

In this topic there has been plenty of smoke, but no fire?

All i see is unreliable evidence from unreliable people that may or may not prove that blade may have done a teamkill which may have been tactically unsound.

This is really gonna shake up the community

the evidence is only going to be unreliable from the POV of the person(s) it points againts, all Blade has to do is confirm that he switched to Team 0 straight after joining the server.
Just because Blade dislikes me does not make me unreliable - I saw the raw unchanged data for myself, parts of which you see here.

it shows:

- which team he joined first of all

- who he killed, medkit, psycho, sync - all on team 1

if it is confirmed that Blade did not change to team 0 after joining, then the evidence against him is proven 100%

Maybe ANNA should log more details, such as team switches and teamkills.

Oh my gosh, what happened here while I was sleeping
So, this whole drama was only because Blade killed Sync and Psycho?

[3]Ste wrote:People alias for only a few certain reasons :

I use aliases sometimes, because I like those names, so there must be a 4th point

there is a 5-th, to not be harassed by the likes of Ste

Well,it *was* Ste himself on his server and his buddy Sike who went godmode and ghosted around when I played vs these two in atdm. I even remember posting a demo about it on triad forums. Says something about the guy. Never seen blade do anything wrong, and I alias a fair share with or without my clan mates in the server.
Makes perfect sense that blade would go and team kill his own clan mate on purpose.

[3]Ste wrote:Blade, dude.....these shots are 100% true. You went on a teamkilling spree you know, I know it, the logs show it.

The authenticity of the shots is not matter of the debate. It's its interpretation and this is definitely not clear yet.

Cozmo wrote:I'm getting really badly owned in these logs lol

(yes, totally relevant)

COZMO!!
YOU CAN BE OUR DEPONENT.
You were in the game, do you know which team Blade was in??

[3]Ste wrote:The big deal is because Blade your an absolute hypocrite. You say you stand up for fair play then we have absolute solid evidence of you entering a server aliased for the very intentions of team-killing for fun. If you were to play with your real name you wouldn't have conducted yourself that way which is why the alias was needed in order to gep everyone for luls.

Fair enough, that's your opinion. I smell bias, though.

-aNax°NKz- wrote:the exact identity of those accused of hacking hasn't been proven yet, I'm sure that's already been said.

Blade entering the server and killing Psycho and Sync has been proven, but, what could change the whole thing is evidence that he actually changed team after entering.

We judged from what we saw and basing on some assumptions, as I elaborated in my prior post. I'm awaiting COZMO's comment to Blade's team affinity. So either Blade DID teamkill OR the authentic screen shots were taken to be interpreted differently on purpose.

On a last word to evidence and proof..
I think we're using the wrong vocabulary.
What we got with that screen shots are definitely indices but we're lacking information to make it proof.

Aliasing is a massive problem, I mean so what if you're rusty or don't get great scores all the time, remember folks it is only you that care about your scores. It's all very unnecessary and egotistical when you think about it, and very cowardly in some circumstances.

Well I somehow missed the switch team message, so I was going under the assumption that Blade was on Team NSF. I should've checked more thoroughly. I now believe Blade might be telling the truth. If this is the case, then I apologise.

Teams are like this:

Unatco: Fury, Tranq (SS), oldowl, player_128, Blade
NSF: Psycho, Sync, playerr, medkit, cozmo

Events are like this (not all happen in the screenshots):

- Blade enters server as NSF
- Blade switches to Unatco
- Blade makes a fair few legit GEP kills
- He makes 2 suicide kills quite close together
- Psycho warns him not to suicide
- Blade racks up some more GEP kills
- Psycho starts talking about football
- Blade appears to type kill him (not sure)
- Blade TKs Fury to kill Psycho with GEP
- Psycho logs in and bans? him

If this is the full story, then I don't think Blade was given enough warning before kicking (or was it banning?). Going to double check after I get some sleep.

THC Mario wrote:there is a 5-th, to not be harassed by the likes of Ste

I dont harrass anyone. If you care to prove it then do so.