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SPAZ ROFELZ wrote:RTK is still metabolic end product, a good quality server I'll admit. Clans with a lack of skill in game normally tend to never gain respect, however if a clan has atleast one good player, their respect begins to rise.

In online gamine respect is almost always directionally proportionate to skill.
There used to be a place of respect for old players, not necessarily skilled shooters, but the ones who put their time in. The new age gamers of today don't show any respect for the oldschool, the shooters who came up from playing on dialup and on overseas servers.

Broadband made it easier for any player to get into FPS, that's why you hear all these whiny kids on teamspeak on most FPS games. Players who have never heard of Half Life and when the new agers think back on the first shooter they ever played the farthest they can remember is a recent game like Halo, and they consider that oldschool.

This is kind of a repetitive rant, most of what I'm saying are points made by other gamers. Skill of course was always a basis for respect in gaming. However, nowadays people mistake illegitimates as skilled players, and players don't play with honor like they did.

Seven plus years ago you would never have experienced a player asking you a question, or getting you to stop and type something so they could get a free kill on you. Neither would anyone else in the server who knew you were typing, or afk.

Anyway, Spaz is right about skill earning respect. It's always been that way, but at least back in the day if you had a metabolic end product connection and you were playing against a low pinger you still got respect, especially if you were an ent, meaning a player who put their time in.

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I'd say there are exceptions...

Fukhead for example is not respected for mapping, modding or clan war skill. Those who don't enter into the politics. Also there are those who suck, but are respected for causing no trouble and minding their own business.

But by and large there is a heirarchy, which is highly debatable.

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Post by Hammer[HK]Time! »

I notice you placed Coder and Mapper high on the scale.

Mine would have been

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LOL

since when was a vet more useful than a coder or mapper? OK against vets:

1. most vets hardly play and if they do, often their score or hiding their identity is more important than the game. A lot of them show little respect to anyone who is not a vet of their years. And some of them are downright stupid towards less experienced players and clans etc.

2. A lot of them make leaving topics which insult the remaining less experienced community... or game. No-one expects it to be as busy as it was in 2002/3.

3. A lot of them sit on forums insulting the current game and reminiscing how much better they were. In some cases, an entire clan leaves and sits now on their forums bitching what remains. Certainly not helping those that have taken up that clan's role in DX. In fact before and after leaving, these vets were deliberately *loving* with that clan.

4. On FGS servers, the problems from jackass and vet are equal. In fact when you add the bs on forums and in pm's, then vets cause more trouble than jackass on FGS servers.

They might be right, dx is crappy compared to past years and numbers of players, but they should stfu and say something positive about what remains. My favourite is coder and noob. Coder refreshes the game. Noob keeps it alive and funny, like a single player NPC.

I don't hate vets, but I don't think they are more important than a good coder or good mapper... That Ratesc map is gonna raise everyone's standards, no more lazy mapping...look at the rocks and texture on that map, it's proper sit down and think of a map stuff.
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ShadowRunner wrote: Noob keeps it alive and funny, like a single player NPC.
Rofl!!!!
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Post by Sike »

Player > Mapper > Noob > Coder
Valgothy wrote:Oh and for your info, ATDM is a modded gametype as well.

BTDM is the real DX.
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IchoTolot > all others

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