Improper behaviour

[~Blade~]

Could I please ask you in the name of maturity and fair game to have a word in private to your members about coming into the A!B server using hax and teamkilling

I heard someone is using aimbot (maybe it was a joke), he's an A!B member

hm something dodgy here. Sounds hypocritical to accuse others of haxing when it was indeed your own clan who have been - and who still are - trying to make funbot work on minimtl servers, they don't even deny it and its hard to justify this kind of improper behaviour among competitive people.

Think this is just an epic troll thread.
and hang on, isnt AB dejavus clan? accusing others of haxing now, really!

[Psycho]

Deja's MIA.

And if we where trying to make funbot work, then we wouldn't remove it from our server, and put the more secure ANNA on.

And I have talked to Kalman about the aimbot, and that member is no longer in A!B, and wasn't when he publically released it.

[[3]Ste]

Firstly Hitler, We are not in anyway shape or form attempting to get a working aimbot in MTL servers. We have no need and we despise hacks as you my friend will shortly see with what we are about to publish =D

Secondly, A!B is Monkees clan and always has been since the first iteration.

However I will say this, I could be very wrong but without FunBot.C there would be no MTL or ANNA or any anti-cheat system because you first need something that opens holes up in a program in order to plug said holes. How can you fix something you don't know is broken?

You of all people shouldn't try to make our clan sound and look bad, believe me....trust me

[~DJ~]

@ Mr FGS Cheater

That sounded so silly.
Ste hasn't said that it's a FGS member directly. He posted on all the active forums.

Oh well, time to wait for the surprise OMGZ!

[[FGS]Kalman]

Please tell us, we are excited, it's worse than a TV-show

[Majestic]

Naturally they'll need to double check to make sure they're not wrongly accusing someone of cheating. Let's be patient.

[[FGS]Kalman]

Maybe it's not related to this whole cheating issue, but I saw this some mins ago on FGS 0Aug:

Someone got kicked for cheating (various)

After I asked him about his alias( Edit: his other alias is JeanLucMELACHON)

[Kaiden]

I doubt Lion is around. If you're not using CRDM and Nephthys mod then having exploiters is your own fault.

I actually don't suggest using CRDM anymore, yet switching to ANNA, as it does more extensive checks.

Or ANNA! Although I get some people might want to continue using the current MTL gamemode due to superior, even if buggy, spectating, till v.2 ANNA anyway.

On topic, innocent till proven guilty, the evidence will need to prove they were exploiting, and will need to prove it was them.

That's the kind of message you get for pretty minor exploits that a lot of people know about, they were kicked instantly by either MTL or CRDM/ANNA (I can't remember the kick messages each gives now) so yeah.

[ShadowRunner]

Redgreazel is capable of reproducing the Lionheart "pretty" pyrotechnics, but he will choose empty server and ask admin first. This wasn't ANNA, this was either CRDM or MiniMTL or some other, maybe something called 220.

I've not seen anything personally that aroused my suspicion with ANNA, except some pro DTS. Prolly the guy was just very good.

[chin.democ.]

So you guys are saying you have up to four names of potential cheaters, this is pretty surprising and bad considering how small the community is.

[Psycho]

So you guys are saying you have up to four names of potential cheaters, this is pretty surprising and bad considering how small the community is.

Ya know the guy who got kicked from your server for cheating, if possible, could you PM me his IP, as it might match one of our names.

[ShadowRunner]

Blade is talking rubbish btw.

So you guys are saying you have up to four names of potential cheaters, this is pretty surprising and bad considering how small the community is.

Bear in mind, this is not just about cheating. The FGS person I have personal proof of (not Ste's proof) is responsible for serious chronic teamkilling and aliasing as well. Cheating was just a means to an end, two of these people are responsible for messing with servers and players as well.

@ DJ, Yes I am accusing you directly. Presumably Ste is going to accuse you, you're the only possible culprit.
And I'm accusing you directly of doing this since May 2010. Of teamkilling FGS members, harrassing them. Of cheating in more than one server. I'm also accusing you of harrassing augged games by serious teamkilling and cheating. And I'm demanding that FGS work with AIB and lead the community by making an example of you and removing you from the clan.

If admins remove this statement again, I will post my findings on a neutral forum and invite the whole community to see.
It's best that we discuss it, before you take action against forum users who have grievances with DJ.

Also if FGS members are going to vote on kicking DJ, they need to be aware of the cheating on EDH server and the fact he has already used up his probation. See the bigger pic, send the right message to the community and take the right action please, when proof arrives. It's directly the pain you've caused, your lying, cheating, but most of the reason I am taking a stand against you - the fact that you have no respect for your clan at all. It's the second time you've been caught cheating.

He had the opportunity to come clean and ask not to be kicked, but instead he chose to laugh at people. If you want a friend, get a dog, he's not your friend, he's lying to you until the last possible moment, you owe him nothing, he brought you shame.

A leopard never changes its spots.

[[FGS]Kalman]

I don't want to protect DJ, I'm with you since we met, but Ste didn't say it was DJ
Ste, please reveal, who did it, so we don't have to guess and point to anyone

[Majestic]

Bear in mind, this is not just about cheating. The FGS person I have personal proof of (not Ste's proof) is responsible for serious chronic teamkilling and aliasing as well. Cheating was just a means to an end, two of these people are responsible for messing with servers and players as well.

@ DJ, Yes I am accusing you directly. Presumably Ste is going to accuse you, you're the only possible culprit.
And I'm accusing you directly of doing this since May 2010. Of teamkilling FGS members, harrassing them. Of cheating in more than one server. I'm also accusing you of harrassing augged games by serious teamkilling and cheating. And I'm demanding that FGS work with AIB and lead the community by making an example of you and removing you from the clan.

If admins remove this statement again, I will post my findings on a neutral forum and invite the whole community to see.
It's best that we discuss it, before you take action against forum users who have grievances with DJ.

Also if FGS members are going to vote on kicking DJ, they need to be aware of the cheating on EDH server and the fact he has already used up his probation. See the bigger pic, send the right message to the community and take the right action please, when proof arrives. It's directly the pain you've caused, your lying, cheating, but most of the reason I am taking a stand against you - the fact that you have no respect for your clan at all. It's the second time you've been caught cheating.

He had the opportunity to come clean and ask not to be kicked, but instead he chose to laugh at people. If you want a friend, get a dog, he's not your friend, he's lying to you until the last possible moment, you owe him nothing, he brought you shame.

A leopard never changes its spots.

We are indeed awaiting definite evidence on this matter. I personally have no idea if it indeed concerns a FGS member. But given the seriousness of the accusations, I can assure you that I personally would take this matter most seriously and would stand for severe consequences.
But until evidence is provided, I am blind. As for your personal proof, I am at a loss why I haven't yet received this. You know I would not tolerate chronic teamkilling.

[ShadowRunner]

Thank you for your patience, I have private messaged you.