Improper behaviour

[Shades]

And ontop of all that.. You are disallowing the good and bad natures of playing the game. No matter how hard you try and work on this game, It won't be perfect.. You can call me naive or whatever.. But what Im speaking is the truth.. And you can't hide from it. Remember In 2005 how many players enjoyed playin this game? What was fun? All the crazy metabolic end product we did together lam bug, water bug, shot time all that sh1t.. Back then there was 30 players in just 2 servers.. Now days cuz of all the rules you can barely find 10 players in one server.

I don't know if you're talking from a 0-aug perspective, but here is my aug perspective. Didn't you play on DIOS server? That is what life would be like without anti-cheat. All the vets that have came back in the last 2 years didn't come back to play in there; let's just put it that way. And let's not forget that a few years ago only a select few knew about working aimbots and passed them around. These days it is passed around even on public forums and is easy for the usual trouble makers to get hold of and terrorise servers with. Also back then enough people played to have an admin in the servers almost 24/7. These days we only get an admin at certain times of day. This allows the usual trouble makers like OLO and Vincent to run rife. They are bad now with teamkilling; imagine what they would be like with infinite weapons and bio?

What would life be like without anti-cheat?

- trouble makers constantly crash servers with infinite lams 'set weapon.lam reloadcount 0'
- trouble makers terrorise maps with e.g., 'deusex.weaponplasmarifle bautomatic true' (+ shottime)
- streak lost (inventory, score, etc) on crash
- more crashes (GPFs)
- 1 vs 1s ruined by cabinet bug (e.g., in CMD whoever spawns inside gets HE + bio before other player has chance)
- FULLMOON super power turbo sniper reload x + alpha

And that is just what I can be bothered remembering off the top of my head about the bad old days. I could remember much more.

Also, I don't know what this obsession is with ANNA and minimalism. It is in a testing phase, so I don't see what the harm is in testing new things out and seeing what works well and what doesn't. It can be trimmed down later. I would love to see more verbose logs and a public player alias history; it would help a lot weeding out the idiots and put them off gaying under alias.

[~DJ~]

I have never used an alias ever named as 'agent' or anything like that, can you please provide logs and other stuff publicly as well? Mine atleast? you have stated the following two:
a) me with the alias 'agentxxxx' log
b) blank cheat message log

so can I see both of em'?

Well do you mind me showing your IP publically? This isn't 100% you I suppose. It is from the Middle East and supposedly there is only one other active player from the Middle East apart from you. You are from the Middle East, right? I guess I don't know it is you for sure; this is why I didn't even want to show the evidence in the first place. As I've said: evidence is unreliable.

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MiniMTL: Possible cheat detected:
MiniMTL: Player Caught:   agent009.
MiniMTL: Player Address:  94.xxx.xx.xxx:xxxx.
MiniMTL: Cheat Found: Invalid Console class Detected. ()

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inetnum:        94.xxx.x.x - x
netname:        ADSL-LNS3
descr:          Jordan Telecom Group (Orange)
descr:          for ADSL customers

"Oh you're from Europe?
the cheater was from Europe so it's obviously you."

That's how it sounded mate. I'm not from Jordan. Middle East isn't a country.
I live in Saudi Arabia.

Although I don't mind to post my IP publicly, but I am registered on AIB forums and you can get my IP address from there.

No offense mate but dint you folks even thought about getting my IP before coming to such conclusions? Without even comparing both the IPs, you thought it's from Middle East so it will be me?

[Psycho]

He didn't say Middle East was a country? And to be fair, Jordan is the neighbouring country of Saudi Arabia.

[~DJ~]

I dint say so either.

Jordan is the neighbouring country of Saudi Arabia.

Umm.. that doesn't even.. what?

How about just comparing that IP address with mine? (as I stated, get mine from A!B forums)

[-Majin-]

I don't know if you're talking from a 0-aug perspective, but here is my aug perspective. Didn't you play on DIOS server? That is what life would be like without anti-cheat. All the vets that have came back in the last 2 years didn't come back to play in there; let's just put it that way. And let's not forget that a few years ago only a select few knew about working aimbots and passed them around. These days it is passed around even on public forums and is easy for the usual trouble makers to get hold of and terrorise servers with. Also back then enough people played to have an admin in the servers almost 24/7. These days we only get an admin at certain times of day. This allows the usual trouble makers like OLO and Vincent to run rife. They are bad now with teamkilling; imagine what they would be like with infinite weapons and bio?

Rofl I actually wouldn't mind that at all.. In fact.. I'd have more fun shooting my friends and hear them bitch about it than shooting the enemy. And trust me shade I don't have to imagine much.. I been around since 2003 I've seen it all. And two lil clowns like olo and Vincent don't intimidate me as they do to some of yous who take gaming up the ass when it's not running in your favor.

What would life be like without anti-cheat?

- trouble makers constantly crash servers with infinite lams 'set weapon.lam reloadcount 0'
- trouble makers terrorise maps with e.g., 'deusex.weaponplasmarifle bautomatic true' (+ shottime)
- streak lost (inventory, score, etc) on crash
- more crashes (GPFs)
- 1 vs 1s ruined by cabinet bug (e.g., in CMD whoever spawns inside gets HE + bio before other player has chance)
- FULLMOON super power turbo sniper reload x + alpha

Fullmoon what? Rofl that kid was a scrub.. Still is a scrub.
Crashes? Dxmp has always had servers crashing.. metabolic end product most of them were my fault.. I didn't even need an admin to crash that metabolic end product and I had it. That was the fun of dxmp. Maybe some of you should lighten up and consider having fun once in a while rather than trying so hard to make this 12 year old game modern. Yeh I kno u gonna say you can have fun by not bugging.. Well wheres the fun in that? Especially with less competition.

And Dj I wouldn't get so easily offended by what they say.. You can be from Afghanistan if u want to.. It doesn't make a difference.. The fact is they got nothing on you but aliasing which I'm sure all of the people that play dxmp alias like a mothefuka.. And teamkilling.. Big wooptie doo.. I doubt ur cheating..

[Shades]

And two lil clowns like olo and Vincent don't intimidate me

As someone who isn't in it for the lulz, and actually plays competitively, then yes, players who persistently empty out servers and spoil games with their antics do cause me to get annoyed when gaming isn't in my 'favor'. And don't bother replying with the predictable troll response of 'lol why you play serious in 12 year old game?'. I play seriously because that is -- believe it or not -- my idea of fun. Cynics such as yourself will say that there is no competition and not enough players in this game anymore; but I've been getting owned enough just fine for this game to still feel competitive to me.

who take gaming up the ass

Relating your arguments back to gays as usual I see. What is your obsession with them?

Crashes? Dxmp has always had servers crashing.. metabolic end product most of them were my fault.. I didn't even need an admin to crash that metabolic end product and I had it. That was the fun of dxmp. Maybe some of you should lighten up and consider having fun once in a while

Lol!1111. You're so cool. Can you teach me how to crash servers and hax so I can be cool like you? I wish I was chilled out and awesome. Please teach me !!11 No but seriously, you are in the very small minority here, of maybe 4 people, who think hacking and teamkilling is cool. And regardless of how much you mock me for taking this game seriously and not having 'fun', the fact remains that my opinion is still the majority in this game. I wouldn't even waste my time with you, but the fact that you are directly trying to put someone down (Nobody) for their hard work in this community is so lame that I had to reply. You are obviously the one who is butt-hurt that miniMTL stopped all your escapades. Are you jealous that Nobody's hacking skills out-witted yours with such ease? He has made you obsolete for years. Back in the day you had some notoriety, but now you're just a joke.

[[3]Ste]

I personally feel that the amount of players from around Saudi Arabia is minimal, Maybe even just yourself DJ. It's not difficult to see why people think that this IP is you after all we can all use VPNs so an IP can place us anywhere in the world.

[Alexander]

For further information, this agent009 used the following IPs (and a few more, but only the last block was different):

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92.*.40.*
79.*.210.*
94.*.11.*
94.*.67.*

I masked the second and last block, so you can see that they are actually 4 different IPs. All originate from Jordan. One could set up a VPN indeed, but I doubt DJ would go as far as arranging 4 different IP addresses.

[-Majin-]

As someone who isn't in it for the lulz, and actually plays competitively, then yes, players who persistently empty out servers and spoil games with their antics do cause me to get annoyed when gaming isn't in my 'favor'. And don't bother replying with the predictable troll response of 'lol why you play serious in 12 year old game?'. I play seriously because that is -- believe it or not -- my idea of fun. Cynics such as yourself will say that there is no competition and not enough players in this game anymore; but I've been getting owned enough just fine for this game to still feel competitive to me.

Shades, you are slipping buddy.. You used to be one of the best back in the day.. Personally I used to look up to you back when I was in [EL] and you were in [T]. Dont take this argument so serious, I know I'm not. Quite frankly I'm getting giggles cuz what I've said so far people are taking it personally.

Lol!1111. You're so cool. Can you teach me how to crash servers and hax so I can be cool like you? I wish I was chilled out and awesome. Please teach me !!11 No but seriously, you are in the very small minority here, of maybe 4 people, who think hacking and teamkilling is cool. And regardless of how much you mock me for taking this game seriously and not having 'fun', the fact remains that my opinion is still the majority in this game. I wouldn't even waste my time with you, but the fact that you are directly trying to put someone down (Nobody) for their hard work in this community is so lame that I had to reply. You are obviously the one who is butt-hurt that miniMTL stopped all your escapades. Are you jealous that Nobody's hacking skills out-witted yours with such ease? He has made you obsolete for years. Back in the day you had some notoriety, but now you're just a joke.

Awh you got Mad bro? Don't be.. Putting nobody down? Rofl why would I do that? Hes one of my bestfriends I got left in here. It wouldn't hurt me if he's smarter than me in making mods and having a bigger knowledge in things than I ever did. What's your point here? You trying to attack me cuz I expressed my personal opinion and you of all people got hurt by it? You trying to protect nobody? Trust me, he can speak for himself. The fact is he has more knowledge than me I know that.. But you don't.. You took a whole week to figure out what your server logs were telling you and you still didn't know what the hell you were looking at. And your conclusion was you finally caught blade getting 2 team kills.. Wow big Fukin wooptie doo.. I'd expect more out of a vet. We all waited to hear this big commotion.. That you were trying to make by saying you found the cheaters of dxmp.. Your research come to the conclusion of being obsolete. You obviously have no knowledge at all trying to figure out who's cheating and who's not. And I'm a joke? Lol the irony in that.. Your whole knowledge is a joke. You are the joke, dunno what I saw in you to look up to a ass clown like yourself.

You are right about one thing though.. That mtl did stop me from my fun.. Sure.. I'll give you that..

I'm done adding more to this pointless argument.. Can't even call it an argument.. Stick to playing augs shades.. That's what you're only good for in this game. Trying to act like a genius backfired on your dumb ass.

[Shades]

I never said I'd found the cheaters of DXMP. Act like a genius? Don't make me laugh. Everybody else hyped this up, not me. I have always tried to play this down and keep my suspicions privates because I know for a fact my knowledge of DXMP inner workings is limited at best. All I'm good for is playing augs? That is kinda like a streaker on a football pitch saying "all you guys are good for is playing football". You are the streaker on the football pitch - no one gives two fucks about you. The rest of us are players in a game who just want to compete and have fun. Sure we're not Premiership. We're not in the big leagues. We don't play in famous Quake leagues for money, but we are all here to play. Then some nub such as yourself comes along who finds that the only way he can get attention is by being an all round tosspot and hacking and cracking servers.

And I certainly didn't waste a week gathering that metabolic end product; a couple hours at best. I've never claimed to be some kind of l33t hacker either; whereas you still boast about it to this day. Play it down all you want, but if you had it your way all that would be up now is "FUN" infinite bio servers. It is lucky that you don't get your own way. Also I don't care if I'm getting personal; the way you write is clearly condescending and patronising. Any kid that chooses to laugh at me will always receive a less than polite response. I'm not the one so far up his own arse he decides that he is above the community. Anyone who crashes servers will never have my respect.

[-Majin-]

All my years in dxmp I've only seen it one time in an rpg server the infinite bio thing. Even in single player.. I was never a fan of infinite ammo and bio. I did things the hard way. And I'll talk down on you as you were on me. So therefor don't you cry baby girl. And if things were my way this game would be dead by 2008. Lol so aren't you happy it isn't? I bet you are.

[Shades]

Yea as I say: I started to talk down to you only once your responses became patronising towards me. I always try to be civil when I can, but I won't waste my time with nubs. As I said: you are the streaker on a football pitch.

[~][FGS][Nobody~]

This argument is getting out of context and my experience says that it's leading nowhere.

Taking out all hate and personal stuff, there are two pairs of statements.

1. DXMP just makes fun when bugs can be exploited and disabling the bugs causes DXMP to die.
2. DXMP just makes fun when it's free of bugs otherwise DXMP is doomed.

and last but not least

3. Cheating can't be avoided, there's always a way to cheat.
4. Cheating can be avoided to a big degree.

Statement 1 and 2 are completely subjective opinions which make them generally true for their supporters. Thus an argument is obsolete.
Statement 3 and 4 are similar but they're not mutually exclusive. So there's at least a change of reaching consensus.


Finally, i'd like to give my two cents to the "it's just a game" attitude.. (MIND, this is not explicitly directed to this topic but more to the general all and sundry.)
In my eyes, that attitude/statement is just a poor way to escape from an argument or to justify the own actions.
DX is 12 years old and I think we're all grown up by now and we KNOW it's just a game.
However, that doesn't mean we're having a fool's license.
Virtual or not.. our community is a kind of society and we should all behave accordingly.

[-Majin-]

Listen I'm not saying don't protect your servers.. I'm saying some bugs should be left alone. Think of a way to stop Aimbotters and spammers but not make the rest of us feel like we're playin inside of a prison.

get it? got it? Fantastic!

[anax]

Listen I'm not saying don't protect your servers.. I'm saying some bugs should be left alone. Think of a way to stop Aimbotters and spammers but not make the rest of us feel like we're playin inside of a prison.

get it? got it? Fantastic!

approved!