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Re: Admin "abuse"
Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 19:09
by ShadowRunner
The more you follow the founder's ways and not the ways of clans that are now dead, the more I feel like re-applying
OK understood.
Re: Admin "abuse"
Posted: 21 Feb 2012, 22:33
by ~][FGS][Nobody~
Alright, I've investigated the issue.
It was an impersonator.
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---- First player joins - ID: 0 ----
ScriptLog: Team 0
ScriptLog: Login: [FEMA]Shadowrunner
ScriptLog: Team 0
Log: Possessed PlayerPawn: ANNAUNATCO DXSG_AbydosB.ANNAUNATCO0
ScriptLog: All inventory from [FEMA]Shadowrunner is accepted
ScriptLog: class of new player is ANNA100.ANNAUNATCO, class of game is ANNA100.ANNATeam.
ScriptLog: Player: 0
DevNet: Join succeeded: [FEMA]Shadowrunner
[...]
---- Second player joins - ID: 1 ----
ScriptLog: Team 0
ScriptLog: Login: Player
ScriptLog: Team 0
Log: Possessed PlayerPawn: ANNAUNATCO DXSG_AbydosB.ANNAUNATCO1
ScriptLog: All inventory from Player_40 is accepted
ScriptLog: class of new player is ANNA100.ANNAUNATCO, class of game is ANNA100.ANNATeam.
ScriptLog: Player: 0
DevNet: Join succeeded: Player_40
[...]
Say: ~[FGS]déádmáu5~(1): hi
Say: ~[FGS]déádmáu5~(1): change team
Say: Comm_camper(0): hi comm has traps
Say: ~[FGS]déádmáu5~(1): change team
Say: Comm_camper(0): no u change team lolk
Say: ~[FGS]déádmáu5~(1): want ban?
Say: Comm_camper(0): u just joined lol
Say: ~[FGS]déádmáu5~(1): change team
Say: Comm_camper(0): u would ban shadowrunner?
Say: ~[FGS]déádmáu5~(1): or ban
Say: Comm_camper(0): *love* u
Say: Comm_camper(0): ban me then
Say: ~[FGS]déádmáu5~(1): yes i will
Say: Comm_camper(0): u u came late
Say: ~[FGS]déádmáu5~(1): change team
Say: Comm_camper(0): i was here first
Say: Comm_camper(0): im telling FGS
Say: Comm_camper(0): *love* u
Say: Comm_camper(0): dont threaten me
Say: Comm_camper(0): u came second,
Say: Comm_camper(0): u came second,
Say: Comm_camper(0): u came second,
Say: Comm_camper(0): so YOU change team
Say: ~[FGS]déádmáu5~(1): doesnt matter
Say: Comm_camper(0): no *love* u kalman
Say: ~[FGS]déádmáu5~(1): i WANT YOU TO CHNAGE TEAM
Say: Comm_camper(0): i invited u to FGS
Say: ~[FGS]déádmáu5~(1): lies
Say: Comm_camper(0): get this, i dont want to change team, i was here first
Say: ~[FGS]déádmáu5~(1): ok ull be banned
Say: Comm_camper(0): i invited u to FGS, now u abuse admin?
Say: ~[FGS]déádmáu5~(1): ok ull be banned
Say: ~[FGS]déádmáu5~(1): cu
Say: Comm_camper(0): no i wont
Then both left.
Ok, let's summarize:
1. It was NOT Kalman, an imposter
2. Shadowrunner was compelled with words
3. I saw no adminlogin from the guy
4. Shadowrunner was not kicked or banned
Apart of that.. I know you're having your differences with FGS but I'm a bit disappointed that you really thought, it would be an FGS member treating you like that and to top it all.. Kalman, where you should know better, because you recruited him.
Alright..
That guy will be banned from FGS altfire again, until further notice.
Re: Admin "abuse"
Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 06:42
by [FGS]Kalman
serverl.log wrote:DevNet: Join succeeded: Player_40
wtf? Just entered and changed his name?
And what happened then? Did he leave?
I checked the altfire once on DXAlpha's server list, and I saw Shadow was on the server, but I didn't see the impersonator
Re: Admin "abuse"
Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 12:42
by ShadowRunner
Nobody
1. Differences were in the past and I left. Now is the present. The differences seem to be between remaining members.
2.
disappointed that you really thought, it would be an FGS member
Hmm... I am willing to bet you that it is not any imposter that is removing weapons from Chinny's server. Players have noticed some strange admin lately (fake or real?), it's got nothing to do with supposed "differences". Bear in mind also, other players have messaged you specifically via logs about admin issues, whether real or fake. So you can see why players are more ready than usual to accept a fake as real perhaps.
Also I've said my piece about "silent admin", so please forgive me for having concerns about admin lately. I think it could be a very useful tool and it's not that I don't trust FGS to use it well, but it's like a weapon of mass destruction that could fall into the wrong hands, that combined with fake players, could start WW3. Players are like Denton, they don't like mysteries and it's one big mystery.
What your logs don't tell you, is the conversation with "Deadmau5" 10 seconds before on the other server. I was fooled and so was everyone else in that other server. The fakes are a real nuisance. I am sorry that I was fooled by a fake. Forgive me for saying, but people are removing weapons from Chinny's server without his authorisation, so perhaps I'm not always full of metabolic end product...
Re: Admin "abuse"
Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 12:54
by ~][FGS][Nobody~
[FGS]Kalman wrote:wtf? Just entered and changed his name?
And what happened then? Did he leave?
I checked the altfire once on DXAlpha's server list, and I saw Shadow was on the server, but I didn't see the impersonator
Yeah, he entered and changed his name afterwards.
Perhaps you checked before it happened. Rollo joined as Shadowrunner and changed his name to Comm_camper later.
ShadowRunner wrote:Nobody
1. Differences were in the past and I left. Now is the present. The differences seem to be between remaining members.
2.
disappointed that you really thought, it would be an FGS member
Hmm... I am willing to bet you that it is not any imposter that is removing weapons from Chinny's server. Players have noticed some strange admin lately (fake or real?), it's got nothing to do with supposed "differences". Bear in mind also, other players have messaged you specifically via logs about admin issues, whether real or fake. So you can see why players are more ready than usual to accept a fake as real perhaps.
Also I've said my piece about "silent admin", so please forgive me for having concerns about admin lately. I think it could be a very useful tool and it's not that I don't trust FGS to use it well, but it's like a weapon of mass destruction that could fall into the wrong hands, that combined with fake players, could start WW3. Players are like Denton, they don't like mysteries and it's one big mystery.
What your logs don't tell you, is the conversation with "Deadmau5" 10 seconds before on the other server. I was fooled and so was everyone else in that other server. The fakes are a real nuisance. I am sorry that I was fooled by a fake. Forgive me for saying, but people are removing weapons from Chinny's server without his authorisation, so perhaps I'm not always full of metabolic end product...
You're right, I can't tell what happens on other servers. I can just speak for FGS-altfire and the Bowen server, if necessary. Both do not have silent adminlogin installed, afaik.
ShadowRunner wrote:What your logs don't tell you, is the conversation with "Deadmau5" 10 seconds before on the other server.
If that conversation happened on the Bowen server, then I can give the following input:
First Kalman was really there, along with the guy who annoyed you on altfire. His name might have been zealot at that time.
Then Kalman left and zealot renamed himself to Kalman's deadmau5 name. Perhaps you thought, Kalman was still there?
Anyway.. if you talk of the Bowen server and if you request detailed infos about it, I'll have a detailed look at it.. DEAL?
Re: Admin "abuse"
Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 13:11
by ShadowRunner
It's not a problem to me, no need to waste your time on my account, unless you are trying to ban fakers.
It was clever on the faker's part. I naturally assumed that the real Kalman followed me at the same time to the next server.
You can see by my swearing how convinced and shocked I was.
Re: Admin "abuse"
Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 15:55
by [FGS]Kalman
Hmmm, zealot
He was on Bowen's, he said my map looks nice, then later on altfire
ani and "Jenny" was on the server too, I asked him about who is him (as Player), but he didn't reply
And maybe he was a Player on 0aug too (it was about 5 mins after I asked him), and kept asking me "who r u deadmau/kalman"
Btw as I know I'm only a moderator on altfire
Edit: I want to know why did killed say what he said in his post, I think he don't like me :/
Re: Admin "abuse"
Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 16:10
by ~DJ~
As for 'silent admins', Silent Adminlogin mutator is not in Altfire, as Nobody said. About 0aug.. yes.. Chinny has installed.. or let's just say put the INT file in his server's System folder (thus it shows Silent Adminlogin Mutator in the mutators list of the server motd).. but Chinny reports that, as far as I remember.. the mutator doesn't work
Re: Admin "abuse"
Posted: 22 Feb 2012, 20:11
by chin.democ.
I've since taken off the silent admin login, these copycats are a problem, once all you had to do was use interesting characters but now they're getting too clever.