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~][FGS][Nobody~ wrote:

alfredo wrote:[...] is the best option untill Dejavus mod gets more exposure

Why 'until'?

A thousand times this. I would like to know why you have preference for his work too.

Magus wrote:

~][FGS][Nobody~ wrote:

alfredo wrote:[...] is the best option untill Dejavus mod gets more exposure

Why 'until'?

I would like to know why you have preference for his work too.

Well, are we not allowed to perfer his work?

All deja's mod does is allow multiple master servers to be used at once, he is hosting one of the master servers, but it allows
the player to see more servers in the server list using 8 MSAs.

..and I repeat myself again.. what's the point of installing a server-lister mod when you can use DXSL to list servers from infinite master-servers?
surely those who are knowledgeable enough to install that mod can just use DXSL instead?
DXMP already has a default feature to uplink to many master-servers as well, as you can see on the DeusEx.ini.. and what's left is uplinking which you can already do without the modification.. so I don't really see what additional benefit the mod provides.. so correct me if I'm wrong!

Not saying you're wrong at all... But some players and especially newer ones don't know about dxsl.

atrey65789 wrote:Not saying you're wrong at all... But some players and especially newer ones don't know about dxsl.

And those players are likely to be equally lacking knowledge about Deja's mod...

Magus wrote:And those players are likely to be equally lacking knowledge about Deja's mod...

Unless we put a server up that directs them to downloading it.

atrey65789 wrote:

Magus wrote:And those players are likely to be equally lacking knowledge about Deja's mod...

Unless we put a server up that directs them to downloading it.

One could just as easily do that for DXSL.

I remain at my stance. I DO NOT see an exclusive OR when it comes to using both solutions.
Alex solution is the basic solution that's the most easy one for all.
ADDITIONALLY, people who are willing to reconfigure their DX, can still install dejavu's multi ms-query mod.
MIND: Using dejavu's mod does NOT avoid using the deusexgaming masterserver at the same time.
You can simply add the deusexgaming masterserver to the list of available masterservers that can be configured within dejavu's mod.

So.. for the love of God..
would this freaking argument FINALLY lead into the insight that we're all well adviced to SIMPLY USE BOTH in the long run??!

HEY I dint say to not use Dej's mod! I'M SAYING THE SAME TING' LIKE THERE'S NO 'EXCLUSIVE OR' M'KAY?
I'm not favoring any mod, infact I technically use both of em' as I'm suggesting! I use DXSL (w/ Dej's MS) AND ALEX'S MS.
All I'm saying is that the mod, sadly, has no real point when there's DXSL available.
but you can use the mod if you want, alongside Alex's MS, just like in DXSL, so there's that. SO USE IT IF YOU WANNA. BUT ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT THERE'S DXSL AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO MESS AROUND INIs FOR IT.

On a related note, is there a Steam Workshop for DX? That could help us get some exposure for Steam users.

just thought id answer DJs question, you can UPLINK to as many as you want by default. SO thats the server sending heartbeats to the masterserver to say it exists.

But the query side, is when the client requests the list of servers from the MS. I.e the game server browser; deus ex only allows ONE MS to be configured in
[DeusEx.MenuScreenJoinGame] part of the ini. Deja's mod allows the game's server browser to query multiple masterservers.

Jacob

derp I know that and so I said to use DXSL instead of using that mod.. getit? Because all it features is a server-lister, and Deus Ex already uplinks to multiple masterservers, so host your servers, use DXSL for listing?

IRT Nobody and general discussion

There is *nothing* wrong with using or promoting Deja's mods, but there is *everything* wrong with promoting several masterservers with active servers, be it directly or indirectly. Stick to one solution, gather community around it, put smarter techies in charge of maintenance and upkeep, and you got yourself a fan-run online game.

I don't find Deja's MS reliable but he will no doubt want to have players using it and hosting servers on it.
I don't find HDD21's MS reliable, for reasons I am not interested in detailing here - you'll see in time; or discuss technical details, current and future reliability with all current MS advertisers, and you can come to your conclusions yourself.

If everybody host and advertise their personal MS, our veterans are more or less forced to use Deja's mod, and sizeable portion of beginners/future players likely won't find it. In the end, it is the community that suffers from such fragmentation in the shape of providing less players for everybody.

Majestic wrote:On a related note, is there a Steam Workshop for DX? That could help us get some exposure for Steam users.

They sell this game and we still make content. I think an organised effort on Steam is in order, a Team Steam is what we need.