The [FGS] Clan

@synthetic, I apologise for my rudeness.

Everybody is unanimous that a new engine would be great but is it within grasp? Could it happen?

Man, Synthetic, You sound like you never liked the community in the first place lol. If you lost all interest in the dxmp community, don't unleash your hate and opinions here... Just simply uninstall the game.

Alvind wrote:@synthetic, I apologise for my rudeness.

Everybody is unanimous that a new engine would be great but is it within grasp? Could it happen?

Looking at available resources now, it would be possible but would also be coming along at snail's pace, and would require an unprecedented amount of cooperation within dxmp and potentially dxsp communities -- latter being so far practically unheard of; hengsha is likely the first project to involve even that amount of people who do something.
Biggest releases in DXMP have always come from 1-man or 2-man teams, less frequently with 3rd contributing, not counting testers.

If someone is able to put together a team for it, and not start porting dxmp over to new engine all alone, it would be possible.

It is critical for the team to figure out what exactly dxmp is.

The most competitive and talented players currently stand by original dxmp, which is a surprise but also a relief. I've heard more than one auger dream of "when I become a millionaire I'll have new dxmp made", and it is possible that some people contribute with some aid from that sector of playerbase.
This - and-or an improved, modernized version - is what you should be focusing on porting to the new engine.

0aug scene is flat on its ass right now, and while all current auging clans have 0auging capacity, the gametype itself will not compete on modern market, and will become synonymous with improved auged gametypes upon any effort made to improve it.

No other gametypes are mention worthy from contemporary gamers point of view, but it has to be said that if you want to develop an MMO (which is something couple guys seemed to have tried, or are trying) you need to pick a suitable engine and learn the basics of MMO developement and content trends. It is unlikely that many dxmp players will move to that, but they might be interested in checking it out; regardless, mmo market is huge as far as amount of players and involved money goes.

Do not for once expect popularity for 15-17 years old engine, particularly if it is for a new mmo.

It is ridiculous how dxmp players have forgotten what dxmp is; upon recognizing a feasible goal, biggest issue in this community can be overcome and work on new engine can begin.

As for me uninstalling, I've been around much longer than you have, and trust me to stay around well after you have shed your tears and left the community. Or, alternatively you can listen to what players say and help out with the new engine.

I haven't mapped for this game (with releases, I worked on my own silly SP mod in 2001-2003, and eventually gave up) and don't know how to code, but my biggest strength is team coordination and additionally I can learn anything that is necessary within reasonable amount of time. I could easily start mapping for new engine tomorrow and do that complete with thorough research into building and optimization. I will not participate in converting DXSP, though, it is more reasonable to just create new DX game instead.

Synthetic wrote: I can learn anything that is necessary within reasonable amount of time.

"I can but i wont" You love to say that to yourself. In the mean time you'll whine and criticise everything.

THC Mario wrote:

Synthetic wrote: I can learn anything that is necessary within reasonable amount of time.

"I can but i wont" You love to say that to yourself. In the mean time you'll whine and criticise everything.

Again guys keep on topic this isn't a verbal death match

THC Mario wrote:

Synthetic wrote: I can learn anything that is necessary within reasonable amount of time.

"I can but i wont" You love to say that to yourself. In the mean time you'll whine and criticise everything.

You don't want to start a flame war with me, Mario. You feel wounded that I criticized speedhacking, your insane bind sequences, or that I was against letting phantom freely cheat in THC server? Or is it that you are just upset I left THC and want to get back to me here?

What better logic you have to offer? Start coding and port game to another engine alone without cooperating with anyone, as is norm here? No, I don't think you have much else to offer. You barely ever even played the game, more of a forum hero. Even if you mastered uscript in 3 days, you'd be clueless as to what to do with it besides making localized version of farmville on unreal1.

For *love* sake guys can you not understand!? THIS ISN'T A THREAD FOR THAT KIND OF metabolic end product!!
THIS IS A THREAD ABOUT INTRODUCING "ASSAULT" ONTO DEUS EX

PM each other your many metabolic end product I don't want it in this thread this the third time! Get it into your skulls...

Ooh derail was largely my fault, sorry about that. I wanna elaborate on the new engine stuff (I've put a LOT of thought into it) but I'll save that for another thread in the future, unless you're curious too.

Assault discussion away!

This thread has gone downhill.

Its not your fault cozmo, your idea is awsome.

@cozmo go ahead dude it's all UnrealEd related
@Reddynasty that pic is hilarious lol
@atrey yeeeaaahhh

Out of curiosity, with the coding being the major element and a new engine being a blank canvas, would it be possible to incorporate "Assault" coding from UT into a new engine with relative ease? I understand that the coding is very old from UT but then again so is Deus ex, surely there couldn't be THAT many differences?

From what I understood they didn't include assault in ut3 so that's why they lost a lot of players as well as being very graphically demanding?

Ken, please stop criticising here if you are planning for that. Let Alvin Dewart do the work.
People here have more gaming and modding experience than you do so they are making something “new” in DX with their unique ideas.

synthetic wrote:I am yet to see best dx mod ever. WW2? What time did Deus Ex setting take place again? I thought it was in the 2050s. WW2 was over by 1945.

The weapons are nice – the maps are well made and the gameplay is pretty different and fun.
With new mods, it does not matter what year Deus Ex has took place.

synthetic wrote:Hengsha? If we wanted non-lethal we go and chat on messenger.

The main aim of Hengsha RPG is to recreate Deus Ex: Human Revolution content, environment, character, stuff, weapon, and everything else in Deus Ex Multiplayer. Please stay away from Hengsha if you do not have played it or DXHR.

synthetic wrote:Most dx mods arent hosted because they are either buggy, poor quality, or simply random ideas some modder thought was the best thing ever without giving a metabolic end product about what the players wanted or expected.

The man himself who only plays zero augs and augs will always think it is buggy, but the man who has a lot of gaming experience (RPG and all other genres) will be a winner and always appreciate the content shown in the mod(s).

synthetic wrote:Arena DM is far superior to any other mod in spite of its age, bugs, or simplicity. 11 years later nobody still hasn't managed to top it, and since DXAG aims to remake DXMP in a very different and relatively simple way, it cannot be considered an improvement rather than something close to TC mod that at the very least respects what Deus Ex is. Most mods don't manage even that much.

Humanity does not need to play Arena all the day; likewise, one should not play the same thing every day.
Poor's Cage match is better.

Most modifications manage much more than Arena. You need your eyes on ModDB.
http://www.moddb.com/games/deus-ex/mods

synthetic wrote:Listen, friends, we don't play this game online for second world war weaponry or themes, for star gates or unreal tournament weapons, and we definitely don't play it to see a low quality version of STALKER developed by one guy, or to idly walk around a map built for 1998-2000 standards just to pretend its sims.

That is NOT some low quality version and Lurker is a professional mapper. People are impressed to see his mapping skills; the content he has made in DX is so far good, and new.
People get just bored of playing augs everyday so it is necessary to play WW2, SG, RPG, or any other decent mod.

synthetic wrote:There are no good mods for this game to speak of when we try to be even a bit realistic about it, and when I tried to remember all the maps I've played during my years in this game, I realized there is a big black hole in that spot as well. Chinny has imported some maps that are potentially playable in original dxmp, but generally designed for 0augs I guess, and largely someone else's creation.

Deus Ex community keeps growing with new content and there are better SP and MP mods to play. Newbies need to search! Searching is key.
You cannot call Chin’s work someone else’s creation but it can be call “collaboration”.

Deus Ex 1 has the unique modding community with all types of mods and other content.


I am NOT going to agree with any of your ideas, posts, or other junk. Please let Alvin complete his work and do not quote this thread because I do not have enough time to waste.

You are absolutely clueless. In some years you'll see I was right, whether in dxmp or in some other game. *shrug*

With that attitude, no doubt about that.

lol..Everyone's work aside, not that I'm disagreeing or agreeing with someone, but just wanted to say.. SpermX is a retard.
CARRY ON.

Oh, and should probably start talking about Assault now.
I could lend *some* assistance Alvin m8, but can't promise anything. I've got updates on the other project though