Page 1 of 4

miniMTL

Posted: 27 May 2008, 20:08
by DejaVu
ive successfuly compiled miniMTL210 (that was stolen from alex) and run it. everything works ok.

that means, ill be working on miniMTL and there will be future releases.

first of all, im already working on improved scoreboard, that will show also:
- server name (i think i a problem already; ASCII 255 cant be displayed on screen, but im gonna work around it somhow)
- current map name that is being played
- current number of players / max number of players
- gametype; for miniMTL211 Team game it says: miniMTL211.miniMTLTeam (pretty cool eh, so you know exactly what version of miniMTL is being run on server)

when i finish metabolic end product, im gona poke my head around spectating and metabolic end product. then when im done with spectating, im gonna create a new joining menu. when a player joins, he can select 4 options what to be (speaking for TDM game):
- UNATCO
- NSF
- auto assign
- spectate

im gonna turn DXMP to be more friendly for new players (so they will know how to switch team at least and what is most important: be able to spectate other players and learn from them).

thats it for now.

Posted: 27 May 2008, 20:25
by ShadowRunner
0-aug is not healthy at the moment, but a lot of 0-aug players are turning their attention to RPG and Combat RPG like Altfire or DXSG and other custom mods like Command_Post /Airstrike and so on, some of which aren't augs, but more players will be ultimately playing augs, especially in DXSG, if it is allowed to prosper this summer...

FGS is working on augged server/maps and on 0-aug/Altfire server/maps...putting a lot of time into it, besides a custom handbook for the community, working on a big project called DXSG_Nexus to run on an augged server.

Another war over gametypes is pointless, EDH have popularized augs this year and even clans such as ours play ATDM etc, and there simply are not enough players around at the moment to satisfy every gametype, so undoubtedly there are pressures. Alot of those too are busy behind the scenes rather than on the servers.

Can the community rest assured that 0-augs and DXSG and DXAG etc can continue to yet more seasons under the DV regime?

Posted: 27 May 2008, 20:47
by ~[A]lex~
As I said DejaVu.

As soon as you release or host a new version of miniMTL, I will be releasing an exploit for it.

You do not have our permission to edit the modification, so we have every right to publish an exploit for miniMTL.

//Use PM to discuss your private matters or I will delete all that crap. Both yours and Deja's. -K.

Posted: 27 May 2008, 21:00
by Kaiden
Pft

Posted: 27 May 2008, 21:50
by Zantinzuken
Don't feed him Kaiden, he's just trolling. Should have been evident to others that he was trolling by the fact he mentioned he stole it from Alex.

Didn't know that was allowed here...

Posted: 27 May 2008, 22:24
by Sike
~[A]lex~ wrote:As I said DejaVu.

As soon as you release or host a new version of miniMTL, I will be releasing an exploit for it.

You do not have our permission to edit the modification, so we have every right to publish an exploit for miniMTL.

//Use PM to discuss your private matters or I will delete all that crap. Both yours and Deja's. -K.
Alex, you don't have to be so lame as *love*. Let him improve the modification because it can't be doing anything but GOOD to the game. If you release an exploit for this, you will be no better than HDD21 who exploited your adv banning mod.

Posted: 27 May 2008, 22:40
by Kaiden
Somewhat different. He STOLE the mod from Alex, I don't see why Alex can't act against it.

Posted: 27 May 2008, 22:53
by Sike
Kaiden wrote:Somewhat different. He STOLE the mod from Alex, I don't see why Alex can't act against it.
Yeah so what if he stole it? Alex could have improved this game significantly by working on minimtl or crd alot more than he works on with all those homosexual mods which are not even improving the game.

Posted: 27 May 2008, 23:06
by ShadowRunner
Didn't know that was allowed here...
lol FGS allow theft? since when, sorry did I miss something...you mean Deja boasting to Alex? Well I'm not sure he has stolen everything he needs and whether it was Deja who stole it, or received it.

I'm not admin, but I'm personally prepared to sit through a catfight between Deja and Alex, if it means the players get some insight into MTL210.

I hear convincing arguments from both sides, but it is fact that MTL was made in 2002.

So I've heard from Deja, and I've heard from [A] why they stopped working on it, as a retalliation for attacks on 0-aug servers by Deja the MTL forums admin. But what eludes me, why does MTL210 lie dormant in [A] hands, what are their feelings about the mod, what reasons for not letting others work on it? I have no idea to these questions, perhaps they were working on some other way of keeping the game alive?

And Kaiden I disagree with you, ruining your own work, even if it has been stolen, is cutting your nose off to spite your face and proving that neither Alex nor Deja are fit to run masterservers If Alex destroys his own then I wont say anything, but it really does not make sense to me, two wrongs dont make a right, believe in truth and justice and the jcdenton way...

It's not about ego 1 or ego 2, it's about players... DZ has started a topic on his forums, perhaps Alex and Deja should read it...

Posted: 27 May 2008, 23:14
by Zantinzuken
Alex has every right to ruin his own creation. The whole "right or wrong" issue is nullified by the sheer fact it was stolen from him, no one else should take the credit for the hard work he had to put into it. Regardless if they add to his creation or not....

Posted: 27 May 2008, 23:26
by ShadowRunner
perhaps you are right...

but this game needs advertising and an easier ride for beginners...

There's always DZ.

Posted: 27 May 2008, 23:35
by Zantinzuken
That's true, I'd prefer if Deja just did something himself from the beginning.

Some people are probably wondering why I bother which such a topic as usually I show little compassion for DX. I've had someone steal my work before and take credit for it, it's bloody infuriating.

Posted: 27 May 2008, 23:41
by {E.D.H}{FPS}HDD21
I like the idea of enabling new players to switch teams easlly etc. many have asked how to do that.

Posted: 28 May 2008, 00:09
by ShadowRunner
Zantinzuken wrote:That's true, I'd prefer if Deja just did something himself from the beginning.

Some people are probably wondering why I bother which such a topic as usually I show little compassion for DX. I've had someone steal my work before and take credit for it, it's bloody infuriating.
your work in DX? or another place? I've had it in real life...once.

Well I think that is the moral story, that [A] cant run DX and neither can Deja, while ppl fight for control and fight PR war's over clan loyalties, the bigger picture is slowly sailing by...

and nothing gets done...

Posted: 28 May 2008, 01:22
by Zantinzuken
ShadowRunner wrote:
Zantinzuken wrote:That's true, I'd prefer if Deja just did something himself from the beginning.

Some people are probably wondering why I bother which such a topic as usually I show little compassion for DX. I've had someone steal my work before and take credit for it, it's bloody infuriating.
your work in DX? or another place? I've had it in real life...once.
Stole art works of mine, put them in competitions, won competitions with them etc. Worst part was having to sort the situation out on my own. Sometimes a little post of encouragement like what I said about right and wrong can give that person the drive to continue. Which is worth it.