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Im disspointed

Posted: 28 Aug 2008, 11:01
by [DXA]{E.d.H}hdd21
Hi all. As you all know im leaving the community and just playing and keeping to myself now.

But i think you will all want to know this.

Well after making my posts i checked for replies. And then found a reply on 17 clan.
It was DJ showing how he can "bypass protections".

He has a package of mine open in an exporter and showed a partially decompled class.

But i noticed to the left were some classes that were embedded with my RPG map
And were never separate .u files. And the heirachy in wotgrealexporter is in the same order when my RPG is loaded in it.

I never released it, Id applied hosting protections and such, but a 17 member dechached it or dj dechached it himself. And then loaded it in wot greal exporter.

From the sshot he posted its showing he loaded the map and was checking for classes IN it. And the classes showen in the list are exact.

dxmpcredits was the most big giveaway. i dunno why i embedded but i did.

And proved useful in catching a lame dechacher. I spent 3 months on that project.

And for him (a.k.a 17 clan) to do something like that is not funny. And as seen by the comment face helped me learn some coding.

He posted it as if to say im claiming others work. (Which im not)

But he let slip that its been dechached by allowing me to see the class herachy.
In the sshot.

The keypad was embedded with the map too along with dxmpcredits.

I wouldnt have minded so much if theyd asked me for the map (i wouldnt have given it anyway) than to dechache it without my permission and then to try and release protected code from its cage which id protected for a reason. (to stop people like his clan stealing it).

Im saying his clan as hes done an idiotic thing under their tag.

Im just posting this so people know what an idiotic thing hes done.

In unreal they share alot of stuff without fear. But in dx when u make a big project u fear it. and for good reason.

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Posted: 28 Aug 2008, 11:04
by ~[FGS]SaSQuATcH~
Damn!

Posted: 28 Aug 2008, 12:19
by ~][FGS][Nobody~
I don't get your problem, HDD.
Removing the source from the classes doesn't make them disappear on the Exporter class list.
Point of the protection is to hide the code, not to hide the classes.
A map is a normal package that can contain classes too, just like .u files.
They aren't hidden either.
To the decompiling... If the protection works properly, people can just decompile function headers.
i.e. stuff like

function PostBeginPlay();

function Tick(float delta);

Be happy, that the protection is that powerful to even hide decompiled code without breaking it for the game itself.
THAT is the actual protection, not the source stripping where it just shows the first 2 class header lines.


If it calms you down.. I made a new source stripper, that completely removes the source data that the classes can't be even seen in the class hierarchy.

Posted: 28 Aug 2008, 13:11
by [DXA]{E.d.H}hdd21
No whats pissed me off is theyve dechached the map and started messing with it. They could have asked the authour (me) for it.

Well this is my last post on a big dx forum.

l8r :P

Posted: 28 Aug 2008, 13:12
by ~][FGS][Nobody~
That sucks, but that' what the protection is for... to avert them having a use of it.

Posted: 28 Aug 2008, 13:14
by [DXA]{E.d.H}hdd21
Yeah it is. I also did host protection so they cant do much with it.

Posted: 28 Aug 2008, 15:24
by SPAZ ROFELZ
Does it really matter who the *love* made what?

God you modders and mappers are children sometimes. Yeah you make pretty maps and metabolic end product, but who the hell actually looks at/cares about the Map Author when they play.

We "fighters" use the same weapons and we don't bitch at eachother, we wear the same uniforms as our team mates and we don't complain about "I WORE IT FIRST"

Y'know if you share your work better mods can be made etc etc.

Even though you're modding for people like me, which in theory makes you all my bitches. So I say, stop protecting metabolic end product, share it all out, and make me a damn sandwich.[/rant]

Posted: 28 Aug 2008, 16:18
by Hammer[HK]Time!
Even though you're modding for people like me, which in theory makes you all my bitches.
LOL

Posted: 28 Aug 2008, 16:27
by ShadowRunner
read my advice in the other thread...

Posted: 28 Aug 2008, 18:46
by ~][FGS][Nobody~
Spaz, I'll mod you a big nuke, which blows you to the moon. 8)

Posted: 28 Aug 2008, 18:57
by SPAZ ROFELZ
So first you mod for me, now your blowing me.

Best. Day. Ever.

Posted: 28 Aug 2008, 19:02
by ~][FGS][Nobody~
Well, I want my fun too. Noone really makes something, if he doesn't have anything of it too.
In this case, my reward would be me seeing you to start like a rocket. :P

Re: Im disspointed

Posted: 28 Aug 2008, 19:17
by ~
[DXA]{E.d.H}hdd21 wrote:Hi all. As you all know im leaving the community and just playing and keeping to myself now.

But i think you will all want to know this.

Well after making my posts i checked for replies. And then found a reply on 17 clan.
It was DJ showing how he can "bypass protections".

He has a package of mine open in an exporter and showed a partially decompled class.

But i noticed to the left were some classes that were embedded with my RPG map
And were never separate .u files. And the heirachy in wotgrealexporter is in the same order when my RPG is loaded in it.

I never released it, Id applied hosting protections and such, but a 17 member dechached it or dj dechached it himself. And then loaded it in wot greal exporter.

From the sshot he posted its showing he loaded the map and was checking for classes IN it. And the classes showen in the list are exact.

dxmpcredits was the most big giveaway. i dunno why i embedded but i did.

And proved useful in catching a lame dechacher. I spent 3 months on that project.

And for him (a.k.a 17 clan) to do something like that is not funny. And as seen by the comment face helped me learn some coding.

He posted it as if to say im claiming others work. (Which im not)

But he let slip that its been dechached by allowing me to see the class herachy.
In the sshot.

The keypad was embedded with the map too along with dxmpcredits.

I wouldnt have minded so much if theyd asked me for the map (i wouldnt have given it anyway) than to dechache it without my permission and then to try and release protected code from its cage which id protected for a reason. (to stop people like his clan stealing it).

Im saying his clan as hes done an idiotic thing under their tag.

Im just posting this so people know what an idiotic thing hes done.

In unreal they share alot of stuff without fear. But in dx when u make a big project u fear it. and for good reason.

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Anytime you host anything you take that chance that someone could cache your stuff theirs no way to prevent it from happening.

You can prevent people from editing your maps or mods since their is now tools for that.

Posted: 28 Aug 2008, 20:30
by ShadowRunner
Jake, we knew already that 17 take player's work and call it their own, that single player map with the parachute ride and cable car is not their work.

I take it as a compliment when i see my brushwork in a noob map.

Re: Im disspointed

Posted: 28 Aug 2008, 22:09
by Kaiden
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