The [FGS] Clan

Greetings my children,
For the general hell of it I am posting something that was written even before I was born
(not by much btw) that has inspired me to what I am now and what I shall become.


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The Conscience of a Hacker
aka The Hacker's Manifesto

by
The Mentor
LOD/LOH

Written on January 8, 1986
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Another one got caught today, it's all over the papers. "Teenager
Arrested in Computer Crime Scandal", "Hacker Arrested after Bank
Tampering"...
Damn kids. They're all alike.

But did you, in your three-piece psychology and 1950's technobrain,
ever take a look behind the eyes of the hacker? Did you ever wonder what
made him tick, what forces shaped him, what may have molded him?
I am a hacker, enter my world...
Mine is a world that begins with school... I'm smarter than most of
the other kids, this crap they teach us bores me...
Damn underachiever. They're all alike.

I'm in junior high or high school. I've listened to teachers
explain for the fifteenth time how to reduce a fraction. I understand it.
"No, Ms. Smith, I didn't show my work. I did it in my head..."
Damn kid. Probably copied it. They're all alike.

I made a discovery today. I found a computer. Wait a second, this
is cool. It does what I want it to. If it makes a mistake, it's because I
screwed it up. Not because it doesn't like me...
Or feels threatened by me...
Or thinks I'm a smart ass...
Or doesn't like teaching and shouldn't be here...
Damn kid. All he does is play games. They're all alike.

And then it happened... a door opened to a world... rushing through
the phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an electronic pulse is
sent out, a refuge from the day-to-day incompetencies is sought... a board
is found.
"This is it... this is where I belong..."

I know everyone here... even if I've never met them, never talked to
them, may never hear from them again... I know you all...
Damn kid. Tying up the phone line again. They're all alike...

You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed baby food
at school when we hungered for steak... the bits of meat that you did let
slip through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by
sadists, or ignored by the apathetic. The few that had something to teach
found us willing pupils, but those few are like drops of water in the
desert.

This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch,
the beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already existing without
paying for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering
gluttons, and you call us criminals. We explore... and you call us
criminals. We seek after knowledge... and you call us criminals. We exist
without skin color, without nationality, without religious bias... and you
call us criminals. You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat,
and lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're
the criminals.

Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is
that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look like.
My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never forgive
me for.

I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this
individual, but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.

+++Mentor+++

Copyright 1986 by Loyd Blankenship (mentor@blankenship.com). All rights reserved.

Added Notes: I posted this here for a few reasons, the spam area would
not be appropriate for I am posting this for serious possible discussion and not titty
shitting and goatse. nipples and that other weird disturbing things that goes on down there. Also I believe this pertains to what a hacker really is and how
everyone in dx calls peoples hackers when they are rejects. This is the meaning
of a real hacker.

More added note: Can someone please change my name to [DXA]Sanguine?

Nice I like, kinda makes you think at the end. Oh btw, you're talking about the OBC, not the spam section.

I've seen it all, i've seen grown men fapping into a bag of kittens, i've seen a woman eat her own metabolic end product while jumping on a trampoline, i've seen babies making babies.

From the day I was born, I was born to be....


a forum troll.





Or not, that whole paragraph is a pile of many metabolic end product.

SPAZ ROFELZ wrote:I've seen it all, i've seen grown men fapping into a bag of kittens, i've seen a woman eat her own metabolic end product while jumping on a trampoline, i've seen babies making babies.

From the day I was born, I was born to be....


a forum troll.





Or not, that whole paragraph is a pile of many metabolic end product.

I've also seen something involving your mother, a cucumber, and an angry looking arab.

It starts off sounding like an angsty teen trying to sound deep and then concludes with the person attempting to rationalize how what he's doing is not a crime. He claims to be smarter than most and then produces tripe like this. It's not deep. It's not insightful. It simply expresses similar feelings that every single teenager feels and then attempts show how that justifies committing a felony. If you have actually based your life off of this drivel I truly feel sorry for you.

Kamikaze wrote:It starts off sounding like an angsty teen trying to sound deep and then concludes with the person attempting to rationalize how what he's doing is not a crime. He claims to be smarter than most and then produces tripe like this. It's not deep. It's not insightful. It simply expresses similar feelings that every single teenager feels and then attempts show how that justifies committing a felony. If you have actually based your life off of this drivel I truly feel sorry for you.

You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed baby food
at school when we hungered for steak... the bits of meat that you did let
slip through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been dominated by
sadists, or ignored by the apathetic. The few that had something to teach
found us willing pupils, but those few are like drops of water in the desert.

I can relate to a good part of it. I am unsure of what country you are from or area... but
when I went to school here in beloved America I had a very very interesting experience.

My school system tried everything they could to expulse me from the school to the point
both my parents just gave up and so did I. I dropped out of middle school in the 6th grade
when I was 14 years old. Illegal yes. I believe they tried to *love* me with every step I took
and I was extremely prosecuted by the super intended and the principle? Why? Because
I was intelligent even more so then they are. They tried everything they could to even bar
me from ever entering school again.

I spent the time going at my own pace learning. I successfully passed my GED test with
one of the highest scores recorded and went on to college at the age of 17 years old.

What does this tell you about my experience when I went through the public school system?

This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch,
the beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already existing without
paying for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteering
gluttons, and you call us criminals. We explore... and you call us
criminals. We seek after knowledge... and you call us criminals. We exist
without skin color, without nationality, without religious bias... and you
call us criminals. You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat,
and lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet we're
the criminals.

Back then this was referred to as phreaking. Also back then there was no such thing
as the internet as it is today. It was still in development/experimental state. It is also
in reference to "Ma Bell". The ONE phone company everyone used before they broke
it up into sub-companys as you see today which are reminiscences of it. There was no
competition and they had a monopoly stronger the Microsoft itself. They owned the
switch boards. They could charge anything they felt like with no one to compete.

In reference to seeking after knowledge. Allot of time they would "explore" systems
not because of devious intent but because of the fascination with them and how they
work. It is kinda like an addiction to learning. Of course there was the few poeple
who like to go marrily around destroying everything in sight. I think this community
has seen allot of that. They are not hackers, they never were, they never will be.

There was no internet as we know it, there was only dial-up BBS boards running on 33k
modems. There was no rfcs specifying any type of standards like FTP, HTTP, SMTP, etc.
How anyone learned a system was by exploration. These systems are very different
then the ones now a days as well. The only way anyone really learned was by usually
getting permision into a system. There was also the ones who broke into systems. Instead
tracing IPs there was phones. Most of them used phreaking to mask their locations
by "loops".

This was a very different time and you should understand this when trying to understand
what it says really.

A hacker is one who is thirsty for knowlage that is like heroin running through an addicts veins,
one who is not satisfied who always seeks more out of something, and one who has a
fascination with a subject.

This is the true meaning of what a hacker really is, it has nothing to do with anything but that alone.

A person is not a hacker who seeks to destroy/"un-create" but to create something better then what he has left it.

So you're telling me that Gary McKinnon was in the right when he hacked into NASA?

Kamikaze wrote:It starts off sounding like an angsty teen trying to sound deep and then concludes with the person attempting to rationalize how what he's doing is not a crime. He claims to be smarter than most and then produces tripe like this. It's not deep. It's not insightful. It simply expresses similar feelings that every single teenager feels and then attempts show how that justifies committing a felony. If you have actually based your life off of this drivel I truly feel sorry for you.

Is electronically robbing a bank legal? No. But the idea the hacker is trying to convey is that when technology first came out, there were boundaries and it was very new. As time progressed, more and more people, especially those who didn't run big companies (the little guy) gained more knowledge and realized that whatever line is drawn, there is a way to cross it undetected.

Now, should those skills of hacking fall into the wrong hands, the consequences could be horrible. However, that is true of the very technology that made hacking possible in the first place.

When he mentions some things that should be free but aren't, take an example of movies/music. It used to be marketers would let you hear a shitty song (see: Single) on the radio or elsewhere, then you had to go out and buy the music. Thanks to hackers, or rather, PIRATES we were able to develop Kazaa, Morpheus, Limewire and now torrents.

So what he is saying is that the mindset of a hacker is one of rebellion, yes even parallel to teenage rebellion. If we all acted like adults and toed the line properly always, we would still be paying twenty dollars/x euro's what have you rather than clicking a mouse a few times and getting it for free.

So it all comes down to who is the real enemy? The ones who gave us the technology to begin with but set up strict rules to control it's use, usually more for their own profits rather than general safety, or the pirates who pioneered ways to allow everyone, well-off or not, the rights to not be raped by taxes, stipulations and corporate many metabolic end product.

As far as the idea of music sharing to continue the example, it was bound to happen. So either companies can keep suing teenagers for wanting to hear some shitty Green Day song despite his lack of a car/money or they can keep up with the game. Eventually, technology will be so entwined with our lives that we'll be able to think about what we want, have the information sent to our brains, and then go about our day.

When that day comes, I'd much rather the moderators of such innovations be the pirates who wanted to supply the public, rich and poor, the right to free entertainment rather than corporate big-wigs with their iron grip fastened tightly around the government's balls. With all of us here (presumably) completed DX and heard all of the dialogue, it should be know wonder who is more trustworthy.

For further reading on this subject, see: The Pirate's Dilemma
Fantastic read.

Real hackers are just having fun with their work. And they try to push up to the next level and make better and better work.

For me, real hackers aren't criminals. They are just geniouses.
Without them, lost of people would be out of work (Kaspersky, Symnatec, etc.) and lots of people would just do nothing.

@Kamikaze: Gary McKinnon is afaik authistic (a kind of mental disability). Tho he still doesnt have any rights to hack the NASA, but he can't be blamed for it.
On the other hand he also showed, that the US governmental PC security policies are many metabolic end product.

so you find me genius :P

the computers at my school aren't safe anymore
and thats all because i'm there :P
my normal school kid account is a admin account and i'm just 14 and still learning xD

Meanstreak(BNino) wrote:

Kamikaze wrote:It starts off sounding like an angsty teen trying to sound deep and then concludes with the person attempting to rationalize how what he's doing is not a crime. He claims to be smarter than most and then produces tripe like this. It's not deep. It's not insightful. It simply expresses similar feelings that every single teenager feels and then attempts show how that justifies committing a felony. If you have actually based your life off of this drivel I truly feel sorry for you.

Is electronically robbing a bank legal? No. But the idea the hacker is trying to convey is that when technology first came out, there were boundaries and it was very new. As time progressed, more and more people, especially those who didn't run big companies (the little guy) gained more knowledge and realized that whatever line is drawn, there is a way to cross it undetected.

Now, should those skills of hacking fall into the wrong hands, the consequences could be horrible. However, that is true of the very technology that made hacking possible in the first place.

When he mentions some things that should be free but aren't, take an example of movies/music. It used to be marketers would let you hear a shitty song (see: Single) on the radio or elsewhere, then you had to go out and buy the music. Thanks to hackers, or rather, PIRATES we were able to develop Kazaa, Morpheus, Limewire and now torrents.

So what he is saying is that the mindset of a hacker is one of rebellion, yes even parallel to teenage rebellion. If we all acted like adults and toed the line properly always, we would still be paying twenty dollars/x euro's what have you rather than clicking a mouse a few times and getting it for free.

So it all comes down to who is the real enemy? The ones who gave us the technology to begin with but set up strict rules to control it's use, usually more for their own profits rather than general safety, or the pirates who pioneered ways to allow everyone, well-off or not, the rights to not be raped by taxes, stipulations and corporate many metabolic end product.

As far as the idea of music sharing to continue the example, it was bound to happen. So either companies can keep suing teenagers for wanting to hear some shitty Green Day song despite his lack of a car/money or they can keep up with the game. Eventually, technology will be so entwined with our lives that we'll be able to think about what we want, have the information sent to our brains, and then go about our day.

When that day comes, I'd much rather the moderators of such innovations be the pirates who wanted to supply the public, rich and poor, the right to free entertainment rather than corporate big-wigs with their iron grip fastened tightly around the government's balls. With all of us here (presumably) completed DX and heard all of the dialogue, it should be know wonder who is more trustworthy.

For further reading on this subject, see: The Pirate's Dilemma
Fantastic read.

This is indeed the kind of message DX is trying to get across.

Gabe Newell of Valve wrote:When you list the things we worry about in this business, piracy isn't one of them.

Kamikaze wrote:So you're telling me that Gary McKinnon was in the right when he hacked into NASA?

He is not a hacker, he s a crazy *metabolic end product way out* looking for evidence that the aliens exist in some kinda global conspiracy.
He used either default passwords, keylogger, or everyday trojans like Sub7 and BO2K.

This is not hacking. We refer to such individuals as script kiddies because they have no
intelligence or technical skill and use "scripts" like out of miliw0rm.

You keep insulting this ideology I opened for debate with such idiotic responses. Try naming
someone who is really a hacker and come back again?

I don't consider Steven Mitnick one either, talking people out of their passwords or login data
is Social Engineering not hacking. If anything he can be referred to as a Social Engineer with
little more experience then the average windows user.

Yea nowadays we can download music movies, games and so on from the internet. It's considered crime because the producers of these things don't get the money they would deserve for their hard work and investments. They will slowly give up and move on to some better paying business or totally go bankrupt and lose their job. It's not fair but it doesn't mean that I don't download things myself. The problem is in the system itself because irresponsible people made this all possible. However smarter companies have already fixed this problem. Look at Blizzard and their all time top game World of Warcraft. They wipe their asses with greenies.

[DXA]Sanguine wrote:I've also seen something involving your mother, a cucumber, and an angry looking arab.

I've seen something involving failure, homosexual and teenage angst.

It was your post.

SPAZ ROFELZ wrote:

[DXA]Sanguine wrote:I've also seen something involving your mother, a cucumber, and an angry looking arab.

I've seen something involving failure, homosexual and teenage angst.

It was your post.

I've seen something involving turtles, oranges and homosexual.

It was your signature.