add some rules + general 1 dimensionality

[anax]

this guy should be advbanned by now, you know who I mean - the 140 ping guy who trolls and persistently fails spectacularly at trying to imitate me.
He spectates before he dies, this should really be a top rule at the same level as suicide gepping in augs - I urge you to please have a serious discussion that hopefully ends with this rule being implemented.

another concern is the 1 dimensionaly of 0 augs, 90% of DX, especially non aug feels like it's just plain Rifle spraying, anybody who enjoys pistols or T-knives soon has to switch because it's all too easy to run around with ass rifle.
instant hit bullet weapon - Aim at the head, compensate for lag if need be and just wait for them to use up their medkits. *yawn*

in future I'll be making maps where rifles are locked in cabinets like LAW rockets are. Might just shake things up a bit and make it moar interesting.

on that note - spectate mode , 0 augs and also rpg and zxc are probably the lamest things to have happened to DX.

also - give some warnings to these dudes who join fighting servers, if they want to not be killed, walk around doing nothing or messing around like Norse and no doubt numerous others, please tell them to gtfo back to zxc servers, that's the place for saying "no kill me pls"

this goes for ALL servers and clans btw - just putting this out as an idea, definitely not a rant without a reason.

- peace.

[Psycho]

0 augs ftw

[anax]

0 augs ftw

posting this in every copy of the topic XD, youknow 0a is great but it becomes lame when the 1 dimensionality of Riflers takes over, I really can't be forked with it.

[Mastakilla]

Can't wait for Shadow to verbally kick your ass

Oh and Cozmo too! YEAAA *grabs popcorn*

Who is this 140 ping guy you're on about though

[Cozmo]

Can't wait for Shadow to verbally kick your ass

Oh and Cozmo too! YEAAA *grabs popcorn*

XD

I can understand Anax's frustration though, even if the post came across as a bit hostile. I find myself using unorthodox weapons like stealth pistol more and more in 0A (surprisingly effective mid-range weapon, less predictable than normal pistol). Spectate-bind guy makes me lol, dodge his first shot and he legs it. Norse will never change either.

Hiding rifles around the map sounds interesting. Only problem is, one experienced player could camp the rifles and dominate the server for a while.

Spectate isn't necessarily a bad thing either; people used to use team switching to reset scores.

[Mastakilla]

But... But... He's dissing 0 aug!

Anyway, suicide gepping is a skill in augs imo

And there's major spraying of assault rifle in augs too, I don't see the point. OH BUT ITS LESS EFFECTIVE BECAUSE OF BALLISTIC PROTECTION, the only difference that makes is that less skilled players will have even less of a chance.

[anax]

Anyway, suicide gepping is a skill in augs imo

probably the most retarded thing I've seen a DX player post on their own forum.
You've played longer than me and you think sui gepping is a good tactic, just. LOL

[chin.democ.]

Anax I appreciate your concerns but personally I don't agree with you, in the interests of being respectful I wish to explain why below (sorry for the long post!).

Not a big fan of rules to be honest with you, (there's a very good reason why but I don't want to type out a massive explanation just now, perhaps in future) however if someone steps over the line then I will kick, it would have to be very bad for a ban. The trolls on FGS server and forum tend to get laughed at by us so really the joke is on them, you just have to remember this is a game and a hobby for us and to see some people wind themselves up is laughable. We're all adults here and so these trolling activities really don't bother us, you just have to rise above it, I polity verbally warn those that choose to spam on the odd occasion and 9 times out of ten it stops. If you kick someone for spamming then again 9 times out of ten he/she will immediately return to the server and will spam again in the same manner, or in most cases, worse then before. If someone is deliberately switching to spectate mode so not to be killed, who's gives a rats, he/she is only spoiling it for themselves and probably is winding themselves up into a fury - laugh it off. If someone is insulting, then they will get a verbal warning if the insults continue then a kick will be issued. Some people genuinely don't believe they did enough to get kicked, you have to clearly explain to them that if they continue to use insulting language then they will be kicked - often people will say fair enough I stepped over the line.

You have to let the trolls know that you are not bothered by them and they do go away, kicking them for silly things only leads to more abuse and disruption of the server, a polite verbal warning does the trick for me. I've been playing this game for at least 7 years now and so I know alot about the behaviour of the trouble makers (often they are just bored). Generally speaking the FGS 0-Augs server is a good place to have a game, often it's alot of fun and we can go from silly DTS fights in one game to dead serious in the next, I'm very happy with the atmosphere of the server - friendly and fun.

I don't see 0-augs as rifle spraying in the least, in fact I can't remember the last time I saw a decent sniper in 0 augs. If anything it's always been an assualt rifle spraying exercise - something that I would moan about years ago but have long since given up doing so. Add to this the faster computer and the problem is only compounded, these tapping crouch assault riflers are a bore to me, I do try and use the sniper as much as possible!

I do enjoy using pistols and I never feel I have to switch to assault rifle in the least, I can kill anyone with the pistol if I really want to, as I'm sure alot of players can that take the time to learn the pistol. The variety of the maps on the FGS 0-Augs server mean that some weapons that are normally overlooked in 0 augs can become very useful, the small maps make good use of weapons such as the sawnoff shotgun and DTS as a quick example.

Your comment on RPG's being the lamest things to have happened to Deus Ex was in my opinion very disrespectful to those who have/are worked/working very hard to give some elements of the single player mode the multiplayer treatment, after all Deus Ex is an action RPG game, surely it should have RPG in it's online component. Whilst I admit some RPG servers are poor in quality and do not do Deus Ex any justice whatsoever, there are some mods that are pretty decent, and I know alot of work goes into these and for that I think these guys deserve alot of respect regardless if you choose to play them or not.

[Mastakilla]

Anyway, suicide gepping is a skill in augs imo

probably the most retarded thing I've seen a DX player post on their own forum.
You've played longer than me and you think sui gepping is a good tactic, just. LOL

It was a semi joke, it's not a skill but there's nothing more beautiful then ending a cocky streaking augged player's streak with a nice gep rocket up close. Lovely

I like how you ignored my balli comment though, weak

[Magus]

There was always ClassBreaker... although not many knew of it

[anax]

hehe I didn't ignore the comment on bally, I know there's a ton of Rifle whoring in augs too, so I need not respond on that one.
clearly you enjoy ruining games with suicide gepping, even if your response was in jest.

I understand perfectly that dx is only a game but really that argument is weak/old - the logic of "I know it's a game but I'd rather have fun playing without idiots ruining it." will always make far more sense.

I do respect the efforts of coders and mod makers because they've helped to iron out some bugs and update the functionality of DX. But DX was meant to be an augged fighting game, not a social rpg lounge or whatever.
Cozmo server was great because it involved actually buying your augs, earning money (from kills if i remember correctly?) the concept of having a city to war in is wonderful. I actually want to make massive city maps that play like Single Player.

[[DXA]avatar]

diagree with the rifle thingy :/ ...
cause i can still own some people ( EXCLUDING FEAR AND PHANT) with a pistol, sawed off and sword in 0a ! and thats fun!

[Mastakilla]

hehe I didn't ignore the comment on bally, I know there's a ton of Rifle whoring in augs too, so I need not respond on that one.
clearly you enjoy ruining games with suicide gepping, even if your response was in jest.

Why is it so bad to suicide gep to end ones streak? Explain to me. It's not that cheap because there are enough ways to defend against it.

I understand perfectly that dx is only a game but really that argument is weak/old - the logic of "I know it's a game but I'd rather have fun playing without idiots ruining it." will always make far more sense.

Things that you consider ruining, other may consider having some fun, in the end it boils down to the rules of the server that need to be followed.

I do respect the efforts of coders and mod makers because they've helped to iron out some bugs and update the functionality of DX. But DX was meant to be an augged fighting game, not a social rpg lounge or whatever.
Cozmo server was great because it involved actually buying your augs, earning money (from kills if i remember correctly?) the concept of having a city to war in is wonderful. I actually want to make massive city maps that play like Single Player.

DX is not a fighting game. Tekken is a fighting game.

[anax]

dude. Think about what i typed for more than four seconds. DXmp is a "fighting" game, as in - the object is to use weapons and augs to battle the other team.
In the interest of staying on topic I won't bother replying to the rest, go look up the list of rules on A!B and THC aug servers if you want some idea of how sui gepping is retarded.

- avatar you're not looking at what I said from quite the right angle, It's fantastic that you enjoy pistols, same as I do.
My dissatisfaction is that most other players will stick to rifles and nothing else, hence my boredom with non-augs, which I would otherwise enjoy if it were as variable and dynamic as augs.

[Mastakilla]

dude. Think about what i typed for more than four seconds. DXmp is a "fighting" game, as in - the object is to use weapons and augs to battle the other team.
In the interest of staying on topic I won't bother replying to the rest, go look up the list of rules on A!B and THC aug servers if you want some idea of how sui gepping is retarded.

That would be called an FPS not a fighting game and DX happens to be a hybrid of an FPS with RPG elements (see augs, skills etc)
Just because a server has a rule against something doesn't mean it's "retarded", if you cry so much losing your streak from a gep rocket to the face, learn to play augs and use ADS + Energy Shield. Nub.

- avatar you're not looking at what I said from quite the right angle, It's fantastic that you enjoy pistols, same as I do.
My dissatisfaction is that most other players will stick to rifles and nothing else, hence my boredom with non-augs, which I would otherwise enjoy if it were as variable and dynamic as augs.

This works in alot of ways,

- anax you're not looking at what I said from quite the right angle, it's fantastic that you enjoy augs, same as I do. My dissatisfaction is that most other auggers are weiner homosexual and nothing else, hence my boredom with augs, which I would otherwise enjoy if it were as competitive and open minded as 0 augs.

(as in, your argument is cool but it's still just an opinion, no facts.)

I feel aug players don't use combat strength enough, therefore the gametype is inferior to 0 aug.