The [FGS] Clan

To be honest, I don't like it. The issues themselves may be valid, but they way it's been sponged around various high-profile forums and blown all out of reasonable proportion sickens me.

I did actually take the time out to read through that entire document, and all I can get from it is the feeling that Elemental is nothing more than an attention seeking prat who has nothing better to do with his time than troll forums for hours on end looking for anything with even the slighest notion of blaming someone for the GODZ metabolic end product.

A lot of people have been sucked in by the lies Elemental is spinning (yea I think it's all many metabolic end product) and this is ultimately what make me think Elemental just craves the attention. Apparently, he's more than willing to drag a couple of dozen people (quite a lot in DX terms) from enjoying themselves in GamesMajor or whatever other servers to argue about an issue which isn't going to affect them in any way.

Doesn't anyone seem to realise that we're not going to keep DX alive by talking metabolic end product on forums? We need to get back in the servers and give Gamespy a good reason to keep that MSL going, because at this rate, by the time you finish bickering amongst yourselves there really won't be a DX left to play.

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Feel free to insert your own thoughts on the issue here, but please, keep it relatively clean. I say relatively because on a topic such as this a small degree of flaming is almost necessary in order to portray your meaning.

Magus wrote:Doesn't anyone seem to realise that we're not going to keep DX alive by talking metabolic end product on forums?

So why you opened a seperate new thread?

But I do appreciate the fact that at least one person has seen through elemental now. The thing that really bothers me is that Faction, Random and other ppl seemED to believe IO, when they say I am lying and attacking IO.

My final comment on this topic - Elemental is the author of the document, his title is "IOPROOF". He spread it, and it got spread further than intended. Kamikaze and Mastershadow and other anti-GODZ have no right to come here and accuse me, not him of attacking IO.

I couldnt care less what elemental has to say about IO, but what bothers me is that Daemon "appears" to have used Beans account to gain GODZ-only info. Therefore it is right that the document was brought to various ppl's attention. What I see is an attack on Shadowrunner, by members of the anti-GODZ, not Shadowrunner attacking IO. Two FGS members were ant-GODZ members as well as non-IO/non-IO Deja and Smook.

In any case IMO you should not have opened a new thread and risked further "opinion" or accusation or flame from people attempting to discredit FGS. But I understand your motives, you are as sick of it as me.
Here's that little bit of flame you talk about...I'm banned on IO for complaining about being attacked and accused by IO without zero evidence. But kami comes here and demands I stop attacking IO, when in fact elemental is doc author and doc is titled IO proof.

FGS should just fall silent on this issue and let other people figure out Daemon and Bean...and let others carry on lying and flaming...play DX

As much as I would love to prove your statement on me seeming to believe IO, I feel that I must again remind you to calm down on the issue.

I have never visited the IO forums, or met any of the members personally, with exception of Jonesy. As for GODZ, I know nothing of their motives - I'm not alloweed to even register on their forums due to my dynamic IP address...

In other words, I choose not to take any sides, because I don't even know the motives, nor the people in question. Therefore, its none of my business, and I do not believe anything I am told on the subject.

As for Random, he has done nothing to prove that he believes IO. ShadowRunner, if someone disagrees with your point of view, it does not necessarily mean that same someone agrees with the opposing point of view. People can and do stay impartial.

point taken.

what i am trying to say is e.g. that if someone shows a pic of me ladderbuggin and then i say without evidence that, that person himself ladderbugs, it is not right for third-party observers to join in a flame of the reporter. that is all. I have not said u have done anything or Random - calm down yourself plz...

I said "seemed"... seemed to me...i feel different today. I am entitled to my own opinions as you said yourself, it doesnt mean I have concluded anything or proved anything.

Nothing has been proved. It has not been proved that Daemon used Bean's account, it hasnt even been proved that GODZ is down because of smook and deja. NC is silent on the issue, we will discover the real reasons soon, whether that is smook, aliens, george bush or NC fancied bringing it down himself.

Shadowrunner: Oh, I'm sorry... am I not allowed to post my opinion now? I haven't intended to cause another conflict by speaking my mind, I haven't gone out to discredit anyone (except Elemental, and he knows he deserves everything he gets for his damn-near successful attempt at *loving* up the game), I haven't done anything to incriminate myself to anyone who really matters. Forgive me, but is that wrong?

Dont slander me Magus adn twist words.

I didnt tell you you should not post. I didnt even tell you not to open seperate threads, I ASKED you a question. So drop the aggression immediately...Shall i repeat the question...WHY DID YOU OPEN A SECOND THREAD?

There is a reason why not too many threads should be opened on the same topic, do you need me to explain? If too many threads exist on the same topic, it will not only waste ppl's time who have poor connections, but it will also allow comments to be crossed and become confused, exactly the way they have already...

Once again I asked you a question, you have chosen to take this as an attack. Seems another person needs to calm down themselves. A thread exists already on this topic...in which you posted, callin it a petty argument. Now you are petty arguing in a new seperate thread.

Do not slander me again - I believe your question is rhetorical...

I will cease to take offence at your words the moment you cease to patronise me.

No further comment will be necessary.

here we go *sighs* *groans* *cries*

do you see me accusing Random and Faction of patronization?

That is a rhetorical question too...

Fine call the first thread petty and then re-open it in a new one...and good luck... I'm gonna observe from an

impartial

viewpoint

blah blah .....you patronize me....

No further slander will be necessary...

Majin and Magus and Magus little attitude problem...on Z server...

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Shadowrunner: btw FGS dont spam Magus, rise above the crap plz
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Shadowrunner: plz rise above the crap
ad infinitum, magus arguing with majin and dissing his own clan in public...

Plz try to get along with the rest of your clan plz, and dont spam.

No further slander is necessary...

If you have problems with other FGS, use pm, not forums or servers...
That is a request, not an order - from IchoTolot...

Read the recruiting thread, we shoot us...

erm Icho plz close this topic and all topics related to this it is just annoying

First of all, as i have said many times b4, the document was only meant for the ppl involved. I was basicaly just recording everything that had been going on..... and so on.. blah blah blah... anyways, it was ShadowRunner that got all of this started not me......

hooray for elemental, always the one to bring it all back up!

what would we do without you? live happily with gumdrop smiles and rivers of honey and milk?

Now, if Magus is being a jerk, thats his problem... I'm quite sure he can control himself when he needs to, along with taking responsibility for his actions

Actually Dr. Phill I didn't bring anything back up again. I was simply making sure that my point got across..... if I wanted to bring this back up, i would say something else about ShadowRunner... but I didn't now did I? no. I was talking about the document.......

hooray for elemental, always the one to bring it all back up!

Finally the truth....

I count over 20 warnings/requests to drop the matter. Elemental and KamiKaze and Mastershadow will not drop the matter.

Like I said This should not have been started as a new topic, it is the same topic as "conspiracy". I dont understand you Magus, you posted in the original thread that this argument was "petty" then you not only join the argument, but start a new thread on it...for a genius, I am disappointed. I have enough experience as a reporter in the wall of shame to know this. If there is a multi-clan flame war going on, CONTAIN it in one place. Don't let it spread all over this website plz...
Xikron wrote:

I highly suggest this matter comes to an immediate end

Magus, Elemental, Kamikaze, Mastershadow, plz dont prolong this.
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I am highly pissed off, not that u spammed Majin back, but that you pick an argument with me afterwards in-game, with FGS members. I once argued with Xikron in a public forum, I am ashamed of it ,and I learned from Icho that FGS does not "fall apart" in public. You seem unable to accept any point from anyone, even when you are at fault and acting like a noob in a server. There was no order or patronization, it truly disappoints me to see FGS acting like all the rest, it's one of the major reasons I joined this clan, that it is very chilled, the members in-game are phenomenally professional and focused and do not lower themselves to the behaviour of others. It is unacceptable to get angry with Majin, spam and then tell another member of your clan to basically STFU.

FGS is the first server new players run to when they are regularly getting 0.20 on GODZ. Playing on FGS server and being a member is not all about winning. I often deliberately die, or give new players a chance to practice.
A real hero does not try to grab all the attention and credit. With regards to this thread, I do not understand you, posting the argument is petty and then re-opening it in a new thread, which just allows further timewasting.

Also plz bear in mind that the majority of FGS members and forum users speak English as second language...