Shadowrunner

Post by **IchoTolot** » 03 Jul 2006, 14:18

some peoples want Shadowrunner out of FGS

YES or NO ???

Post by **ShadowRunner** » 03 Jul 2006, 14:32

If you vote no, why dont you tell everyone why?
If you vote yes, tell everyone why...
If you couldn't care less, I don't blame you...

Who is "some people"?

And if it is over recent events, then I might as well leave now, there was no freedom of speech. I am banned from the IO site, but multiple members of the IO forums came here and accused me of various things.

If you are undecided, plz bear in mind one thing. Elemental passed me a document which said "IO Intel" and then passed others a document called "IO Proof". For IO and Elemental and Mastershadow to suggest I was troublemaking is simply not true. The fact the document was called proof, led me to believe things which were not true, and I acted upon false info.

Whether you vote me out or not, there is a hacker making life very difficult for me at the moment, I'm probably out anyway.

I think "some people" are little cowardly, why didnt you just e-mail me, tell me your point of view, I might have listened and left. Now it seems you wish to involve other people in your own grievances.

Ok goodbye and good luck.

Post by **IchoTolot** » 03 Jul 2006, 14:35

...why didnt you just e-mail me, tell me your point of view...

i dont vote ... my option is this poll

PS: i dont tell names

Post by **ShadowRunner** » 03 Jul 2006, 14:50

There's a saying...the truth always arrives in the end...

Sike says hello!

some people want shadow out of FGS

many metabolic end product...some people want shadow out of DX...

Elemental · Post by **Elemental** » 03 Jul 2006, 21:31

ShadowRunner, stop bringing my name up. I haven't said anything to Icholot about wanting you out of FGS, personally I don't really care if your in or out. I dropped this subject a long time ago.... i suggest that you do the same.

Post by **ShadowRunner** » 04 Jul 2006, 01:53

I've not accused you of anything, I believe you named your doc "proof" for a reason, the same reason I warned people about the intentions to destroy servers such as FGS.

If icho was here and not on holiday I would have pm'd him the info.

I think it is amazing that a poll has been started on a FGS member, inviting non-FGS to vote. More amazing when you consider that my computer is under attack, presumably from someone mentioned in the document, but Icho's concern is whether I should stay or leave, not whether my computer is OK.
I contributed much to this clan, including maps. What did I get?

Icho is behaving as if I have tried to harm the clan and ignoring the fact that actually other people "were planning" to harm the clan, or indeed have harmed my computer.

I took a risk warning ppl and look at the thanks I get. It's a nice way of letting me, thanks Icho...

If you want me out of the clan, why hide your names? Cowards? Just suppose you lose the vote, think I want to stay? I search a clan I can trust.

Kamikaze · Post by **Kamikaze** » 04 Jul 2006, 02:25

I was hoping to stay out of this, but I have to agree with Shadow. Why does this vote allow everyone to vote? To me this seems like an FGS matter and has no point being posted where anyone can see it and vote in it.

Whiplash · Post by **Whiplash** » 04 Jul 2006, 03:43

I agree, why is this in the public domain ... it's a private FGS matter!

You guys need to get your house in order cuz this is ridiculous.

Post by **ShadowRunner** » 04 Jul 2006, 04:08

Be fair to icho he was away, also some ppl havent fully followed posts and events, and I myself was misled regarding so-called "proof" which actually was many metabolic end product about IO, the real offenders were not even in IO and it seems IO knew nothing of it that ele suggested, he was revengin you...

but I must say that IO are being very honourable about this... 8)

Elemental · Post by **Elemental** » 04 Jul 2006, 07:00

Wait a sec. ShadowRunner, you pc is under attack also? somebody has been sending me viruses I don't know how, but apparently I had one for a long time.... I have had 8 viruses within the week.... Looks like we may have a common enemy.... But now you see why I wanted that document to stay secret....... and why i asked you not to tell ppl about it just yet... But it looks like we may have to help each other....

xikron · Post by **xikron** » 04 Jul 2006, 07:56

My name is xikron and i would like shadowrunner out of FGS.

Post by **ShadowRunner** » 04 Jul 2006, 10:28

Finally... the truth...

Yesterday a lot of people from MSN ask me:

1. What bad thing have I done to FGS?
2. Who want me out?
3. Why?

Icho post this poll and invite public to vote.
He dont tell me who.
He dont tell me why.
He dont explain what mistake I have made.

It's a "kangaroo court"...

I offered Xikron to discuss me leaving about 10 days ago, he dont say anything, he dont discuss it with me. Rather Icho and Xikron would post poll in public and let people think I did something very bad to FGS.

Read the FGS rules. Seem like Xikron and Icho break them, not me...

Post by **ShadowRunner** » 04 Jul 2006, 10:39

xikron wrote:My name is xikron and i would like shadowrunner out of FGS.

if you never spoke about this, but tell the community publicly and dont give a reason...I wanted Magus out of FGS for more than reason, but I dont dare to be so arrogant or impatient or think I know whole picture...I believe with patience and perserverance Magus has realized his responsibilities of being in the best clan.

May I ask the reason I am wanted out if it is not too much too ask?
Since now a lot of ppl think I have tried to *love* with FGS now...
And elemental NOW do you see the reason I posted warnings about hackers? I dont say it is virus, also its hard to tell, my router is being messed with, but also my hard drive is quite full...
Same as GODZ, we dont actually know what is happening, that is why I posted warnings...

Xikron seems once again to blame me for the flame war, the document quotes are out of context as IO pointed out...hardly my fault is it...

You do things the wrong way, you spoke to Icho and now there is a poll, once again you drag the public, when you could have pm and tell me your reasons for your wishes, I might have left without public argument, I might have convinced you otherwise or sworn to stfu and not ever post again.
Mapping and wearing FGS tag is my interest, not getting involved with teenagers in crap...if my clan stop *loving* with me and FGs then I have no reason to ever post again, except to publish a map, that is deal I shake my hand on...

In real life people get taken to a quiet area and warned... you guys are just making yourselves look bad, the way you anonymously precipated a poll with not giving any reason... Perhaps you forgot FGS rules?

Sanctuary and Magus said in-game they would have done exactly what I did...which was try to protect FGS, When I published the doc, I had no idea Mastershadow was anti-GODZ or anyone else...

Elemental · Post by **Elemental** » 04 Jul 2006, 11:44

I think what you guys are doing to ShadowRunner is exactly what IO did to me.. congrats you guys are exactly the same freaking thing... I got removed from IO without knowing jack crap until about 3 weeks after I was removed. I have seen this time and time again.... people being harshly booted out of clans.. heck, ShadowRunner, I have a friend that runs a clan.. one that won't treat you like this.. if you want I can talk to him about letting you in. Just don't give up on clans like I have.... just take that tip from somebody who made that mistake. But unlike me, you still have the chance to not do that. I can't go back to clanning, but you can.

Post by **ShadowRunner** » 04 Jul 2006, 13:06

if the non-FGS and Xikron win the vote, I will not join another clan, FGS is the best clan in DX. There's no crime in being inexperienced on internet and forums. In any case this poll is a chance for many ppl to revenge me, but look, only one person votes against me so far...
What does that tell you...

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