Kuchcik's demotion

[Majestic]

What the hell?

[Kuchcik]

What the hell?

I am glad you apparently weren't a part of that outrage.

[Majestic]

Actually, I didn't even KNOW about it until I happened to read about it in a spam topic.

[Kuchcik]

Actually, I didn't even KNOW about it until I happened to read about it in a spam topic.

Nice. Comments, Nobody and Hawk?

btw I don't want that metabolic end product back, just wondering why do you think you're *loving* leading this clan or something
we (me, majestic and shadow) became the leaders when we resurrected FGS after attacks on our servers. Democracy, yes, how about a damn poll or something? If you think I'm impolite, well, I am, but this game has no future anyways.

[~[FGS]SaSQuATcH~]

then why want power among a dead game's clan?

[[FGS]Hawk]

Actually, I didn't even KNOW about it until I happened to read about it in a spam topic.

Nice. Comments, Nobody and Hawk?

btw I don't want that metabolic end product back, just wondering why do you think you're fcuking leading this clan or something
we (me, majestic and shadow) became the leaders when we resurrected FGS after attacks on our servers. Democracy, yes, how about a damn poll or something? If you think I'm impolite, well, I am, but this game has no future anyways.

ASK THE ICHO. Goddammit... And why do you only *loving* blame Nobody and me for that?!
I think a clan should be a team and not splitted in small groups of people "hating" or disliking each other. I actually thought it wouldn't be like this when I joined FGS...

[Majestic]

then why want power among a dead game's clan?

FGS does not represent DX only. As you might know, I'm not very active in Deus Ex (and not in UrT either) but still I care about this clan. Ever thought about the fact that Kuchcik has helped build this clan since early 2006 and he's a leader, among Icho, Shadow and me?
Actually Chris, I'm wondering why you even are a moderator. This was another decision that the leaders of the clan did not know about (if I recall it right).

I quote, regarding your promotion as moderator:

I know it was a rapid decision between Icho and me, but not a wrong one, I think.
However, it was still a bit rude, I agree. Next time, there will be made a topic about it in the private section.

Need I say more? I am truly disappointed and saddened by the way this has happened.

[[FGS]Hawk]

I got a PM from Icho "what to do with the Kuchcik"-problem All admins should decide. I didn't know that you weren't involved, Majestic.

EDIT: I'm not *loving* leading the clan. I'm just the tech idiot working on the tech idiot stuff. Btw: Icho told me, that you (Kuchcik) and Majestic are the leaders. Didn't even know that shadow is leader.

[~[FGS]SaSQuATcH~]

then why want power among a dead game's clan?

FGS does not represent DX only. As you might know, I'm not very active in Deus Ex (and not in UrT either) but still I care about this clan. Ever thought about the fact that Kuchcik has helped build this clan since early 2006 and he's a leader, among Icho, Shadow and me?
Actually Chris, I'm wondering why you even are a moderator. This was another decision that the leaders of the clan did not know about (if I recall it right).

I quote, regarding your promotion as moderator:

I know it was a rapid decision between Icho and me, but not a wrong one, I think.
However, it was still a bit rude, I agree. Next time, there will be made a topic about it in the private section.

Need I say more? I am truly disappointed and saddened by the way this has happened.

Oh well darling, I'm quite sure you're misunderstanding me here as I was talking to Kuchcik, not to you.

btw I don't want that metabolic end product back, just wondering why do you think you're fcuking leading this clan or something
Democracy, yes, how about a damn poll or something? If you think I'm impolite, well, I am, but this game has no future anyways.

I was simply surprised at Kuchcik complaining about leadership problems yet saying that the game is dead, on which I asked about what the point of complaining would be.

If you think I shouldn't be a moderator here then remove my powers right now, even though that green username means nothing.
I have equal rights with any [FGS] member like Prophet, Ghost or DJ yet non of them are moderators. The only reason I wanted to be a moderator is to prevent DX section being flooded of spam as I visit the place several times a day which allows me to check whether spam has gone to places it wasn't supposed to be more often. The other day I heard Anih

[[FGS]Hawk]

Sasquatch is a good moderator. So why blame him? He is doing his job well.
I think we should *loving* stop bitching at each other and get peaceful again.

We're *loving* German Servers, we're one unit, we must work like a unit and get along with each other. Cmon folks...

Btw Kuchcik: The decition was to take away your modrights for a month. You'll get em back soon.

[Majestic]

There's no need to try to make me look like an idiot by using darling. I was explaining Kuchcik's attitude by telling you the history of Kuchcik in this clan (which you probably didn't know).
I think the point Kuchcik was trying to make was that he thought some people were ruling over him where he should be the one in charge. I never said you shouldn't be a moderator, but your promotion to moderator (as well at least one other thing) happened without me knowing about it. You see, I do not like to see people playing dictator in the clan I helped building.
Also, where did you come up with the 'Majestic-wants-chris-out-of-FGS' thing? I'm pretty sure I wrote none of that. You might know that it's been a long time since FGS kicked a member out, and I think there should be a very large amount of metabolic end product before someone should be kicked.

@Hawk I'm not blaming Chris at all, nor am I saying that he's saying he's not good enough.

[[FGS]Hawk]

Weren't there IchoTolot and RoiDanton before you and Kuchcik?... Didn't they build the initial FGS clan? Don't they have anything to say? Don't they pay the servers?

Democracy always needs an instance to control itself. If someone (in this case Kuchcik) does what he want and insults other people "in the name of democracy"... oh wait a minute!...

Extreme example:
If germany wouldnt have the BVG (highest court of germany) which is controlling and checking laws, decitions, etc. we would have the nazis as leaders again...
(I'm not meaning that Kuchcik is a nazi or so o.O please don't misunderstand this).

Icho is just some kinda control instance of this clan IMO. If he sees, that something is needed or goes wrong, he asks people to make a decition with him or makes them himself. Noone was hurt, yet.

[Majestic]

I'm afraid there's a misunderstanding here. I've never said me, Kuch and Shadow were the only ones to create this clan.
Also, I don't think Kuchcik ever insulted in the name of democracy.
Furthermore, Icho is still active now, but Roi...I haven't seen him in years so I guess that kinda makes Roi obsolete. If he has a say (which he has of course), he can't use it.

[~[FGS]SaSQuATcH~]

There's no need to try to make me look like an idiot by using darling. I was explaining Kuchcik's attitude by telling you the history of Kuchcik in this clan (which you probably didn't know).
I think the point Kuchcik was trying to make was that he thought some people were ruling over him where he should be the one in charge. I never said you shouldn't be a moderator, but your promotion to moderator (as well at least one other thing) happened without me knowing about it. You see, I do not like to see people playing dictator in the clan I helped building.
Also, where did you come up with the 'Majestic-wants-chris-out-of-FGS' thing? I'm pretty sure I wrote none of that. You might know that it's been a long time since FGS kicked a member out, and I think there should be a very large amount of metabolic end product before someone should be kicked.

@Hawk I'm not blaming Chris at all, nor am I saying that he's saying he's not good enough.

I said darling because I told Kuch something then you were sort of answering in his behalf I know your role in [FGS] and never questioned it.
My promotion of becoming moderator was done with the knowledge and agreement of Nobody and Icho. I'm fully aware that you didn't say you want me but you totally sound like that when saying those things to me, as if I was abusing my rights or something unlike Kuch who I lvoe but edited posts of people he didn't like plenty of times before, which was probably one of the reasons his power was removed. If you do a little research you will soon understand why his rights are suspended for a month. I hate the fact that people are overrating the importance of moderatorship and admining. It has nothing to do with your role in the clan itself. Cops and mobs both have guns. Do you respect them equally?

[[FGS]Hawk]

I actually put up the new forum with permission from Icho only... whoops! Do I have to remove it again o.O...
And I became Admin because of Icho and RoiDanton... o.O...

Actually I don't want to make a big discussion out of this. Lets group-hug and everything is ok again? Cmon folks...