Improper behaviour

[ShadowRunner]

I agree with you, he's not one the people listed by AIB as spreading stuff.

Friggin annoying at times in server though. He thinks an alias fools people.

If he was a noob, I wouldn't care less, but DJ has talents.

I've seen the "bug" demos too, but it makes me wonder what the difference between a cheat and a bug is.
If the server's security is telling you it's a cheat, then that is a cheat no?

Whether anyone can prove anything at all or not, they're entitled to feel that his "annoyances" let other FGS people down.

[-Majin-]

A bug is a miscalculated error by the game.. And a cheat is having to bypass the games rules and creating your own authority.

And blade.. I've seen you get kicked out of the 0-aug servers a couple times.. For "cheating" I presume. I've known you for a long time.. And I know you wouldn't try something below your skill level and make everyone think less of a person. Care to explain how you get kicked? I got an idea in my head but I could be wrong.. So care to elaborate?

[~][FGS][Nobody~]

Wow, what a great topic. It's full of drama, accusions and contradictions and YET NO PROOF.. Which makes the whole argument obsolete.
Funny that such topics always occur when I'm off to holidays lol..


To answer the last post directly. A faulty or very delayed join attempt can cause you getting kicked for cheating... simply because it interprets a lack of given and requested information from the joining client as potential cheat attempt.

Thus, Rollo.. to give a short answer to one of your posts according to the reliability of mods.. if a mod says someone is cheating, it can't be compared to a 100% conviction.
For the sake of peace, I'm not going to respond on all the other accusions, you've made over the past 5 pages. We BOTH know how this will end anyway so we can skip that.

[-Majin-]

Hm I get it.. But what if hes already in the server and it kicks him? Does that mean he's bugging that mtl will disallow him from Doin that? I wonder if he gets gpfed.. If so the gpf warning should say it.. I'm not accusing you blade I'm just pointing it out.. I've seen it a lot when I used to play against you that's all. And nobody.. Sorry to ruin ur holiday(with Jill)

[[FGS]Kalman]

Funny that such topics always occur when I'm off to holidays lol..

It's the curse of Blitz from How I Met Your Mother lol

The Curse of the Blitz is a curse that results in the victim missing epic, and sometimes
miraculous, occurrences.

[Shades]

It is a shame that so many direct accusations are being made before a public disclosure. As Nobody says: logs can't be used as proof of aimbot. For this reason [A!B] is dropping the case. We don't have enough solid evidence, so it would be unfair to release info to the public. Even so, I'll share my findings in private with developers as it may help them understand what could cause these messages.

There is, however, still one bit of gossip for those of you who go into ATDM servers. We've claimed for some time now that [THC] members go into [A!B] server under alias and teamkill. We've tried to put this to them in the form of log files, but they claim that we doctor the logs just to make them look bad. The best form of proof would be a demorec catching them in the act -- where one of us logs in and manages to display their IP on the HUD before they disconnect -- but sadly they're crafty enough to not teamkill whilst admins are around.

So we've went for the next best thing and allowed a non-[A!B] member (Anax) access to our gamingdeluxe.co.uk account. With this access one can view the livestream of the servers. Here is what we showed Anax:

Blade logs in on 'Team 1' under alias P1ayer:



Other players log in on 'Team 1':



Blade teamkills these very same players:



As you can see, Blade is acting like a complete tosser and teamkilling. This P1ayer alias (and the same IP) of Blade is also found teamkilling in older server logs, which I will provide if anyone is interested. Psycho has also verified the IP as Blade's with other server admins.

For those of you still concerned that we are trying to frame Blade: please understand that getting evidence on someone as slippery as him is not an easy task. We would've liked to allow more than one witness to see our livestream, but allowing everyone access to our server is a security risk. Furthermore, we only had a limited time before the stream was cleared, so we had to grab whoever was online at the time -- and that person was Anax.

I'm sure some will try to claim that Anax is colluding with us, and that the screenshots are forged, but I hope most will use common-sense and realise that Anax could turn around at any time and say we are lying, and thus show our whole clan up as worse frauds than Blade. If we really were lying, then why would we risk that? Go and grill Anax all you want, but all you will get from him is the truth of what he saw.

And for those wondering if we tampered with the livestream: the only way we could tamper with it is if we somehow hacked and defaced GamingDeluxe's website, which I'm sure most would agree is unlikely.

Please use common-sense and realise that the evidence against Blade is overwhelming.

[~DJ~]

Okay so wait wait wait... who is being accused of hacking?

[Shades]

Okay so wait wait wait... who is being accused of hacking?

No one. Read my post to find out more.

[~DJ~]

Yeah, you said you have insufficient evidence to prove anything, but can't we know who was being accused?

[Shades]

Yeah, you said you have insufficient evidence to prove anything, but can't we know who was being accused?

Why do you need to know that? It will just make them look bad. As I've alread said: it is unfair to release the info in public when we have no solid proof.

[-Majin-]

Do you have any kind of idea that, that person is cheating? You can't explain how but you explain your point of view which is what makes you think that certain person is cheating..

And will someone give me the fudging link to AB forums.. I will ban joo off da server for haxin Youh fawkin feggit.. Ima get zeh admin on you feggits ! Eeeeeeeeghhhh!!!! Kthnx

[Psycho]

http://forums.ab-clan.com

[Shades]

Do you have any kind of idea that, that person is cheating? You can't explain how but you explain your point of view which is what makes you think that certain person is cheating..

Yea an alias was being used by five different players at different times: agent000 x 2, agent001, agent008, agent009. At last 3 of those players were also being investigated by us for aimbot. I've got to go to work now, so I'll answer other questions tomorrow.

[~Blade~]

Ah yes, i remember this event. was just a few days ago.
May i share my version of events? being as unbiased as possible:

I came into A!B server with the name player, was using GEP, pretty effectively i'd say. Then 1 time sync (on psychos team) runs too close and i suicide kill him, even though i had the streak so obviously not intentional. Then sync says "BAN!" lol so psycho says dont suicide kill, i remain quiet.
Couple mins later psycho, i think has a streak and was fighting Fury (unstreaked teammate) so I shoot a GEP rocket and kill them both. Then he bans me.

Firstly, there was no hacking at all, lol! What an unfair accusation based on 1 game where I unintentionally teamkill someone.

Secondly, on this stuff shades has posted, Sync was not on my team. He was on psychos team. Fury was there you can ask him, he was on my team, I killed an enemy (psycho) with 1 GEP rocket that also killed Fury. For which I was banned.
I was not on Syncs team as you can clearly see from the first picture that psycho and sync are killing the same enemies (e.g. tranquility). That second pic must have been taken from another map. And then the third pic returns to the same map as the first, where they are on the same team.
Look again at those kills which shades highlighted that are supposedly teamkills in the 3rd pic: Medkit is not on my team, then i kill myself with GEP (lol who hasnt done that), i kill psycho who also isnt on my team, i accidently suicide kill sync, but i've mentioned that above.

1. As you can see, Blade is acting like a complete tosser and teamkilling.
2. For those of you still concerned that we are trying to frame Blade: please understand that getting evidence on someone as slippery as him is not an easy task.
3. We would've liked to allow more than one witness to see our livestream, but allowing everyone access to our server is a security risk. Furthermore, we only had a limited time before the stream was cleared, so we had to grab whoever was online at the time -- and that person was Anax.
4. Please use common-sense and realise that the evidence against Blade is overwhelming.

1. None of what you have shown are teamkills.
2. Yea because im not a cheater or a hacker.
3. How about you let someone trustworthy like FGS Nobody look at all your evidence? but I like those live stream things, if you would show Nobody the whole stream with no gaps then I would like to hear what he says. And not in notepad form, thanks.
4. You are calling numerous decent players cheaters claiming to have lots of evidence but it turns out that no such evidence exists and you are not willing to give to anyone and expect everyone to believe it.

[Psycho]

No, you where on mine and syncs team. When u join, it says:

Scriptlog: Team 1

Same goes for Sync.

Lol and I didnt ban you, I kicked you.

Also it says

Scriptlog: Team 1 for me.