A future?

[ShadowRunner]

We believe Dejavu's project will not be a success, and only kills Deus Ex more with his O.C.D of control

I believe what is killing Deus Ex, is your clan's extreme arrogance.
I believe what is killing Deus Ex, is your clan's obsession to prove the probable fact that you can do it better than anyone else.
I believe what is killing Deus Ex is the fact that you think you can do it by yourself. You can not dictate to a happy society. Rule Number 1.
I believe what is killing Deus Ex is the inability and total failure of Deja Vu and [A] clan to forget the past and work together with others, even outside the community on MINIMTL210

I will talk about this last point.
James, you have just accused Shadowrunner of always bringing up the past, but this is what you do right now.
Deus Ex is dying because beginners enter a game and...

1. Get shouted at by ppl LIKE Alex, vets with tempers and boredom.

You got me killed!

always blaming and shaming.
2. Get shouted at for having wrong skin
3. Get shouted for a lot of other things
4. Get crouchbugged in 0-aug, get bind-slaughtered in augs, get totally confused in any custom DXAG, DXSG game.

I do not blame any beginner who leaves within the first 3 months.
Shadowrunner is accused of being a flamethrower,always looking for a fight. For the record - I do not regret running Factory or Platoon servers, it kept MP busy last year, it was a new thing 32 slots. [A] clan chose to call me "deja's bitch", but actually all I did was the run the server, you stood against the rest of the entire community and tried to trash the server. For the record - Since FGS Wunderland, any argument directed at [A] clan has been purely in response to their actions on our server, especially since FGS decided for a while to totally remove beretta and test the reaction.

What we do on our server is our business, not [A]'s to threaten, shout, blackmail, order us around etc. You'll figure it out James.

FGS remains neutral, but we do support DZ's idea of reviving something like FACTORY forums, anything which brings that spirit back to DX.

[{E.D.H}{FPS}HDD21]

100% agreed with shadows post.

[ShadowRunner]

you would wouldn't you... I am not being fair, I am only discussing [A]'s share of the blame, no mention of any others, perhaps we are all to blame...

but FGS will do exactly what [A] do, keep their forums clean.

And HDD what would u know of MiniMTL210 then?

[~[A]lex~]

Hi.

We don't try to prove that we're better than anyone else. We know we're better than some people. Like you. Comparison:
Did Alpha read personal information without permission: No!
Did FGS read personal information without permission: YES!

Draw your own conclusion.

"I believe what is killing Deus Ex is the inability and total failure of Deja Vu and [A] clan to forget the past and work together with others, even outside the community on MINIMTL210"
We refused to cooperate with DejaVu because we knew he didn't change. You all thought he did.
And did he? Did DejaVu change? NO! What did he do now? He hacked me and uses exploits to make everyone use his masterserver. He also banned my server from the list and also RTK.

"1. Get shouted at by ppl LIKE Alex, vets with tempers and boredom."
Oh no, we don't shout to everyone, we shout at YOU.
And it seems that it's all fair. Seeing as YOU were a piece of metabolic end product who decided it's fair to read someone's PERSONAL MSN LOGS.

"[A] clan chose to call me "deja's bitch""
And that name suits you just fine. You received the MSN logs from DejaVu (even though he claims he got them from you), and instead of telling me I got hacked, you go read the logs! It seems to me that you ARE deja's bitch.

"and tried to trash the server"
What did we do then? We commented the server. That's all we did.


I spit on you ShadowRunner, really. You're a disgrace to humanity. And I will also spit on FGS if they don't do anything about it's members who have been breaching my privacy for days by reading and 'processing' the MSN logs, which, in case you didn't notice yet, are MINE and MINE only. And I'm furious about it.

[ShadowRunner]

That will teach you to not to try to access FGS private forums again.



QUID PRO QUO

begrijpt u me?

You lied. You invaded our privacy FIRST. Stop accusing me of attacking you. We are not on your forums.

Here is a simple diagram.

Alex....................thin red line...................Shadowrunner.

Don't metabolic end product with FGS again please.

[~]

I can't believe we're still hearing about this complaint I for one say its your own fault as i stated in the other thread.
Its obvious you made the logs available to someone and they gave them away.
This is not shadowrunners fault but your own.
Anyway i posted a pc lesson guide in the other thread you should check out.
It may prevent incidents in the future on your part.

[~[A]lex~]

That will teach you to not to try to access FGS private forums again.



QUID PRO QUO

begrijpt u me?

You lied. You invaded our privacy FIRST. Stop accusing me of attacking you. We are not on your forums.

Here is a simple diagram.

Alex....................thin red line...................Shadowrunner.

Don't metabolic end product with FGS again please.

Privacy? I've been given ACCESS to the privacy by FGS ITSELF.
I never had ANY access to your forums, I have been GIVEN information with the PERMISSION of FGS. YOUR members represent YOUR clan.

[ShadowRunner]

You received the MSN logs from DejaVu (even though he claims he got them from you), and instead of telling me I got hacked,

@ ALL FGS and DX

Alex is lying.

The only reason Alex knew he had been hacked in game was:

The fact that FGS contacted Alex and Zora and told them to check their ini files...

Alex's MSN logs, which we posess, confirm this...

I can post his convo and prove he is lying AND that he told [A]Jon that Shadowrunner warned him.

[~[A]lex~]

You received the MSN logs from DejaVu (even though he claims he got them from you), and instead of telling me I got hacked,

@ ALL FGS and DX

Alex is lying.

The only reason Alex knew he had been hacked in game was:

The fact that FGS contacted Alex and Zora and told them to check their ini files...

Alex's MSN logs, which we posess, confirm this...

I can post his convo and prove he is lying that he told [A]Jon that Shadowrunner warned him.

With being hacked I mean MSN logs being stolen. My computer security being breached. Your turn again.

[~]

I can see i'm going to have to write a more indepth guide on how to be safe on the internet or dx

[ShadowRunner]

Privacy? I've been given ACCESS to the privacy by FGS ITSELF.
I never had ANY access to your forums, I have been GIVEN information with the PERMISSION of FGS. YOUR members represent YOUR clan.

YOU BREACHED OUR SECURITY FIRST

YOU BROKE THE PEACE

YOU READ THINGS THAT ZEITGEIST PASSED TO YOU

YOU CAN NOT DENY THIS OR I WILL POST YOUR MSN LOGS WITH ZEITGEIST WHICH PROVES YOU ARE LYING

AND WHICH PROVE THAT ACTUALLY FGS TOOK A RISK OF DOS AND WARNED YOU

next time Alex, when the Deja Stormtroopers come, I will care only for FGS, *love* your clan then...

you were the first to sneak into private, and you were the first to post private...

THATS WHY U GOT DOSSED you didnt even ask Deja what his peace terms were,

you betrayed me and posted private convo, that I had warned you.

stupid, cos look at what has happened since.

[ShadowRunner]

Hitman, stay on topic plz...

[~[A]lex~]

Privacy? I've been given ACCESS to the privacy by FGS ITSELF.
I never had ANY access to your forums, I have been GIVEN information with the PERMISSION of FGS. YOUR members represent YOUR clan.

YOU BREACHED OUR SECURITY FIRST

YOU BROKE THE PEACE

YOU READ THINGS THAT ZEITGEIST PASSED TO YOU

YOU CAN NOT DENY THIS OR I WILL POST YOUR MSN LOGS WITH ZEITGEIST WHICH PROVES YOU ARE LYING

AND WHICH PROVE THAT ACTUALLY FGS TOOK A RISK OF DOS AND WARNED YOU

next time Alex, when the Deja Stormtroopers come, I will care only for FGS, *beep* your clan then...

you were the first to sneak into private, and you were the first to post private...

THATS WHY U GOT DOSSED you didnt even ask Deja what his peace terms were,

you betrayed me and posted private convo, that I had warned you.

stupid, cos look at what has happened since.

Rollo zegt:
one morethreat ill ask deja to hack you myself

I got permission of FGS to read those logs. I can't help it if a member of YOUR clan gave me FOUR posts. FOUR POSTS Yes. POSTS, not TOPICS, just FOUR text messages.

What did you get and spread? FOUR MONTHS OF LOGS.
FOUR. MONTHS. That's a *loving* lot more, don't you agree?

[~[FGS]Próphèt~]

"1. Get shouted at by ppl LIKE Alex, vets with tempers and boredom."
Oh no, we don't shout to everyone, we shout at YOU.

i'm not going to say anything about the rest, but this is a f*cking lie. Alex, everytime you go in the server (and i'm there as well), all i see is you bitching to everybody who manages to kill you. you will flame ppl (i have experienced this myself) that kill you, saying (in my case): 'ffs stop hiding behind crates" and stuff like that (this was on the Canyon base map and Shadow can testify as he was there too). everytime i got a kill on you you started flaming me, calling me a noob and that i should get some decent kills. but when you start spawnkilling it's all ok? you have some of the lamest tactics i've ever seen in AltFire and yet you dare to complain about other ppl.

another example (this wasn't aimed at me but still): it was on A51 and some player (can't recall the exact name, but it was Player_...) said to you: 'you lag' to which you replied: 'i don't lag, it's just you who can't aim'.

Seriously if you don't think comments like this scare ppl away, then there's something wrong with the way you think. All you do when come in a server is flame and nag. Really, you are the Undead of AltFire, congrats

Kind regards,

[ShadowRunner]

If you threaten me again I will just collect and pass all threats from the last few months and keep it.

If u accuse me of being responsible for your breach in security anyway and continue making false allegation to people, same too, I will just collect all that and keep that too.

You are just feeding the fire.

Go away and realize you abused our privacy first and posted msn logs first.

ALEX WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO POST ANY MSN LOG

so it should be me going to the police, but Im not a girl like [A] clan, I give you justice instead. Actually someone from dxmp.net's camp gave FGS justice...

its a serious matter of honour in real life and in the game Alex, you posted my MSN LOGS on alpha

and had knowledge of private forum topics.

quid pro quo dude...