New A!B dedicated box server up

[Psycho]

It is passworded for a few days to iron out the kinks but the password is A!B1337 so feel free to login and play.

Please let us know what you think on the forums, any lag any spikes etc (forums.ab-clan.com)

Gonna post this to let you guys know that ab have got a dedi server. ATDM. Under test mode atm.

[atrey65789]

what are you guys testing?

[Cozmo]

ATDM exclusively?



Don't get me wrong; I like it for clan wars and tournaments, makes it very interesting, but in a public server, the team with more streak-givers will get completely screwed. New players get targeted instead of encouraged to learn how to play etc. I also constantly get team-killed with LAM/20mm by people who don't care and just need a streak. Imo it just becomes filthy.

[atrey65789]

alright cool.. lol

sorry, i dont play 0A or ATDM Or anything thats close to original.... I love moddy servers.

[Mastakilla]

ATDM exclusively?



Don't get me wrong; I like it for clan wars and tournaments, makes it very interesting, but in a public server, the team with more streak-givers will get completely screwed. New players get targeted instead of encouraged to learn how to play etc. I also constantly get team-killed with LAM/20mm by people who don't care and just need a streak. Imo it just becomes filthy.

You're not gonna convince A!B of that

Good to see another server though, Ste posted it on the facebook group too, should be very stable

[Psycho]

ATDM exclusively?



Don't get me wrong; I like it for clan wars and tournaments, makes it very interesting, but in a public server, the team with more streak-givers will get completely screwed. New players get targeted instead of encouraged to learn how to play etc. I also constantly get team-killed with LAM/20mm by people who don't care and just need a streak. Imo it just becomes filthy.

You're not gonna convince A!B of that

Good to see another server though, Ste posted it on the facebook group too, should be very stable

Yeh don't think you'll convince ATDM players who have played for 10 years +

Ste wants to test the server and tinker with it so it's as good as it possibly can be before it is well and truly public.

[Cozmo]

ATDM exclusively?



Don't get me wrong; I like it for clan wars and tournaments, makes it very interesting, but in a public server, the team with more streak-givers will get completely screwed. New players get targeted instead of encouraged to learn how to play etc. I also constantly get team-killed with LAM/20mm by people who don't care and just need a streak. Imo it just becomes filthy.

You're not gonna convince A!B of that

Good to see another server though, Ste posted it on the facebook group too, should be very stable

Yeh don't think you'll convince ATDM players who have played for 10 years +

Ste wants to test the server and tinker with it so it's as good as it possibly can be before it is well and truly public.

Idk, I recently re-watched some of the Messiah demorecs that used to have me in awe in 2005/6, and realised there was a huge amount of noob-bashing required, even with his skill.

My first experience with DXMP was getting destroyed in my spawn over and over by Lex because he needed a streak lol. Almost uninstalled, but then tried Bowen's and learned how to play augs like a year later from forums. We really can't afford to lose new players these days.

Anyway, ramble over. It was worth a try. XD Overkill server is good news in any case.

[ShadowRunner]

DX is really dead and boring I have to say and the numbers of players at the moment back up what I'm saying. Some of you are making it dead and boring, to be honest. All the bs arguments on both sides are dead too, because if ANY of what you people said was correct, there would be 200-400 players right now. THC is better than FGS 0-augs or AIB server for one simple reason it has a much greater variety of maps and gameplay and maps from 2001-2011, it is "clanless" in it's choice and it's even hosting one of my maps. I dont think any of my maps should be on AIB, perhaps none are suitable, but THC map variety seems to be far greater.

It seems like to get hosted on FGS 0-augs you have to make a ridiculously small map, Concordia despite being original and a beginner map was "too big", server also is removing almost every aspect of Deus Ex. To get hosted on AIB, you basically have to rework smuggles and hand in a concrete map. Even ATDM players comment this to me, that over-use of concrete is making them puke.

Oh and let's stop for a minute and consider THC too... *loving* ballistic armour, like you want to KILL Deus Ex, how smart was that I'm not sure. Beginners are really gonna sit there and think "hey you know what, maybe he's using ballistic", they literally don't know what hit them.

Also some players are bs too, even clanned players these days acting like total idiots with no regard for player numbers.
Also some modders and mappers are bs too, doing stuff entirely by themselves and then refusing to release it, even when others are working or have worked on the mod, you're not actually a modder or a mapper btw, you're a fail too.

DXMP will die soon, because you're all too busy with the politics and fanatical religious beliefs of "what it should be". You cut the legs from under a man, he's never gonna walk again without help. DX is entirely limbless, these archaic philosophies literally don't have a leg to stand on. You're my bestest friends in DX, but I have to say, to your face, you're so obsessed with technical bs, that you don't see the woods for the trees. Player experience is the most crucial thing, not anything else at all. The same experience repeated and repeated will never work.

12 year old game, and no-one has truly fixed Robots, Terminals, PC's, hardly anything has been converted to MP. What the *love* have the coders been doing for 12 years? Same with the mappers, it's taken 12 years to really get a community together and learn anything at all.

Single player is still better...BUT WHY WILL THIS GAME DIE, really...People work very hard, it's not nice to criticism. They are the ones trying. The people that will really kill DX, will be the best players. Deus Ex is not entirely a shooter, there are RPG elements, but you are *loving* complete twats and cunts for squeezing every last advantage you can. This is not Action RPG. In actual good RPG games, it's a rule that you don't jump on every last mistake by the enemy player and it's a rule that you remind and coach your opponent, in really really good RPG.

What you've done is turn a 12 year old RPG with potential for MP into a shooter with poor gfx, in most servers you've removed EVERY last thing which makes it superior to CS or it's competitors, not even a *loving* grenade explosion. If you were really honest with yourselves, you will admit there is particular type of DX you like and that is nothing at all like SP, Action RPG, but an unintelligent, uninspiring, almost instagib rifle game. It is so *loving* boring. ATDM could be made more interesting and more worthwhile for beginners, without even touching current set-up, but stuff could be done. Anyway, sorry for the rant, I was inspired by Cozmo! It's good we get things off our chest.

I think AIB server is good, I really enjoy it and I enjoy it more since DryDock, it mixes skill levels well, like CMD. I don't think I have any solutions, I'm not any better, but I think Cozmo raised some interesting questions.

To summarize.
If you want DX to die.
1. Keep on holding on to beliefs which you know logically are not Deus Ex.

2. Keep on squeezing every last single advantage out of your enemies, your PC, their mistakes, their inexperience. Keep on rifling so people never experience a fight. Keep on stealing the advantage rather than challenging yourself.

The noob-bashing argument is bollox, because ppl whine at noobs with 20mm, but having bullied the beginner into stopping, more than half those people will use 20mm on that beginner to get their first augs.

[Mastakilla]

DX is really dead and boring I have to say and the numbers of players at the moment back up what I'm saying. Some of you are making it dead and boring, to be honest. All the bs arguments on both sides are dead too, because if ANY of what you people said was correct, there would be 200-400 players right now. THC is better than FGS 0-augs or AIB server for one simple reason it has a much greater variety of maps and gameplay and maps from 2001-2011, it is "clanless" in it's choice and it's even hosting one of my maps. I dont think any of my maps should be on AIB, perhaps none are suitable, but THC map variety seems to be far greater.

It seems like to get hosted on FGS 0-augs you have to make a ridiculously small map, Concordia despite being original and a beginner map was "too big", server also is removing almost every aspect of Deus Ex. To get hosted on AIB, you basically have to rework smuggles and hand in a concrete map. Even ATDM players comment this to me, that over-use of concrete is making them puke.

Oh and let's stop for a minute and consider THC too... *loving* ballistic armour, like you want to KILL Deus Ex, how smart was that I'm not sure. Beginners are really gonna sit there and think "hey you know what, maybe he's using ballistic", they literally don't know what hit them.

Also some players are bs too, even clanned players these days acting like total idiots with no regard for player numbers.
Also some modders and mappers are bs too, doing stuff entirely by themselves and then refusing to release it, even when others are working or have worked on the mod, you're not actually a modder or a mapper btw, you're a fail too.

DXMP will die soon, because you're all too busy with the politics and fanatical religious beliefs of "what it should be". You cut the legs from under a man, he's never gonna walk again without help. DX is entirely limbless, these archaic philosophies literally don't have a leg to stand on. You're my bestest friends in DX, but I have to say, to your face, you're so obsessed with technical bs, that you don't see the woods for the trees. Player experience is the most crucial thing, not anything else at all. The same experience repeated and repeated will never work.

12 year old game, and no-one has truly fixed Robots, Terminals, PC's, hardly anything has been converted to MP. What the *love* have the coders been doing for 12 years? Same with the mappers, it's taken 12 years to really get a community together and learn anything at all.

Single player is still better...BUT WHY WILL THIS GAME DIE, really...People work very hard, it's not nice to criticism. They are the ones trying. The people that will really kill DX, will be the best players. Deus Ex is not entirely a shooter, there are RPG elements, but you are *loving* complete twats and cunts for squeezing every last advantage you can. This is not Action RPG. In actual good RPG games, it's a rule that you don't jump on every last mistake by the enemy player and it's a rule that you remind and coach your opponent, in really really good RPG.

What you've done is turn a 12 year old RPG with potential for MP into a shooter with poor gfx, in most servers you've removed EVERY last thing which makes it superior to CS or it's competitors, not even a *loving* grenade explosion. If you were really honest with yourselves, you will admit there is particular type of DX you like and that is nothing at all like SP, Action RPG, but an unintelligent, uninspiring, almost instagib rifle game. It is so *loving* boring. ATDM could be made more interesting and more worthwhile for beginners, without even touching current set-up, but stuff could be done. Anyway, sorry for the rant, I was inspired by Cozmo! It's good we get things off our chest.

I think AIB server is good, I really enjoy it and I enjoy it more since DryDock, it mixes skill levels well, like CMD. I don't think I have any solutions, I'm not any better, but I think Cozmo raised some interesting questions.

To summarize.
If you want DX to die.
1. Keep on holding on to beliefs which you know logically are not Deus Ex.

2. Keep on squeezing every last single advantage out of your enemies, your PC, their mistakes, their inexperience. Keep on rifling so people never experience a fight. Keep on stealing the advantage rather than challenging yourself.

The noob-bashing argument is bollox, because you all whine at noobs with 20mm, but 99% of you will, having made the enemy stop using it, start using it yourselves. You are truly a bunch of lame fuckers... turning an action RPG into a *loving* mess of a shooter.

There was no arguing going on here just some opinions o_o

Are you lashing out at auggers? 0 auggers? the community? I'm not getting it...

[Cozmo]

Imo, we should split the topic. There's still things I'd like to say about public ATDM, but I feel bad that I've dragged this topic away from A!B's godly new server.

[Psycho]

I don't understand what you mean shadow :p

THC is better than FGS 0-augs or AIB server for one simple reason it has a much greater variety of maps and gameplay and maps from 2001-2011, it is "clanless" in it's choice and it's even hosting one of my maps. I dont think any of my maps should be on AIB, perhaps none are suitable, but THC map variety seems to be far greater.

Gardens of THC only hosts default maps. There aren't many suitable augged maps. DryDock being one of the only suitable ones.

. To get hosted on AIB, you basically have to rework smuggles and hand in a concrete map. Even ATDM players comment this to me, that over-use of concrete is making them puke

lolwhat? the server has only been up for a day, and is currently getting tinkered with. The only maps on it at the moment are the default ones.

DXMP will die soon, because you're all too busy with the politics and fanatical religious beliefs of "what it should be". You cut the legs from under a man, he's never gonna walk again without help. DX is entirely limbless, these archaic philosophies literally don't have a leg to stand on. You're my bestest friends in DX, but I have to say, to your face, you're so obsessed with technical bs, that you don't see the woods for the trees. Player experience is the most crucial thing, not anything else at all. The same experience repeated and repeated will never work.

ATDM is a gametype that's been around since the beginning, so ofcourse it has developed its own style, and following. Over the years its developed a style to play, and this is how people play it. If you start playing with it, then it isn't the ATDM people have loved for years.

Single player is still better...BUT WHY WILL THIS GAME DIE, really...People work very hard, it's not nice to criticism. They are the ones trying. The people that will really kill DX, will be the best players. Deus Ex is not entirely a shooter, there are RPG elements, but you are *loving* complete twats and cunts for squeezing every last advantage you can. This is not Action RPG. In actual good RPG games, it's a rule that you don't jump on every last mistake by the enemy player and it's a rule that you remind and coach your opponent, in really really good RPG.

So basically what you are saying is, that we are not allowed to competativlly play a competative gametype, and should run around with baton in preference?

2. Keep on squeezing every last single advantage out of your enemies, your PC, their mistakes, their inexperience. Keep on rifling so people never experience a fight. Keep on stealing the advantage rather than challenging yourself.

Just because the enemy rifles, does not mean you have to. In ATDM, you have to be very creative to end a streak - Be it spydrone and 20mm, shoot a planted lam etc.

[Psycho]

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[RedDynasty]

well that certainly was.....interresting

[ShadowRunner]

might have been drunk this morning due to birthday yesterday... but gg. Good luck with server.

[Psycho]

We also have a War server on stand by, so if you post a request here: http://forums.ab-clan.com/index.php?/to ... #entry4756 , a server will be set up asap for a cw/1vs1/scrim/clan training etc.